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clr race rules?

Started by kickingbug1, July 03, 2014, 10:01:35 PM

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mattman

The race was just for fun!? Crap....  I think the race is a time to sail somewhat competitively - if not it wouldn't be referred to as the "Race". There is certainly an air of competitiveness even if only in the sense oh humor as shown by crazycarl's ''race rig outboard'', or the La Man's start, or the water cannons, or the "I got off the line despite already drinking 3 PBR's! But it really does serve as great punctuation to a week long event. Seriously though, for those interested, we could talk about and demonstrate what works for each of us, sail side by side making adjustments,  and even hop from boat to boat to get a feel for what is happening and to improve as skippers. I love sailing different boats and playing around to find what works for each. On the other side a "how you cruise event" would be really cool. Many of the CLR guys spend a lot of time on the hook, it would be great to hear and see what works for each skipper during extended time aboard their vessel. Techniques for perfect morning coffee, trip planning, navigation, boat handling, storage...you get the idea. Reading about it on the net is no substitute to seeing something in person, especially the end of day libation. Just some thoughts.  Btw I appreciate all the effort Steve and Sarah put into the event, I had a great time, meeting great people, doing the greatest thing-sailing boats. See you on the water!

crazycarl

let's not change the date.  i'll be submitting my 1st vacation choice next week, and once submitted, i cannot change it.

CC
Oriental, "The Sailing Capitol of North Carolina".

1985 Compac 19/II  "Miss Adventure"
1986 Seidelmann 295  "Sur La Mer"

Bob23

I agree. For what it's worth.
B 23

rogerschwake

  I'm believe anyone how didn't have a good time at the CLR can only blame them selves, sorry but that's the way I see it. The race was just for FUN so maybe there should be no trophies if there is a problem with that part of it. It will take a national disaster or my wife to keep me away this year.

ROGER

MacGyver

For Ginger and I, it is the highlight of our year, and our primary vacation to be honest.
I know of a few instances of confusion as to the raft up swimming hole, and also the super long start time of the race, other than that, the only other bad part was when it all ended and I had to go back to work. The first 2 I listed is simple tweaks, but the last part, well, I have many years of work left so I am just kinda screwed there.......

The only thing that would keep us away from CLR is if this other guy buys the marina (long story) and hopefully that stays unlikely.

Mattman has mentioned a beer meeting sometime, so if that materializes let me know, I will do my best to make it. Between my new recovery efforts from my lightning, turning wood items, and work, I have kept busy enough to not work on my boat yet. :) Oh and Ginger has stuff for me to do, like finish a house project that has been in the works for like a year and is half finished..... oh well! You have to have a beer break with buddies ever so often guys! So let me know!

Mac -n- Ginger
Former Harbor Master/Boat Tech, Certified in West System, Interlux, and Harken products.
Worked on ALL aspects of the sailboat, 17 years experience.
"I wanted freedom, open air and adventure. I found it on the sea."
-Alaine Gerbault.

Bob23

I don't think you should eliminate the trophys. Mine is worth several hundred times what it cost and I've had to relocate it to a secret climate controlled vault. I've insured it through Lloyds of London...couldn't find a local insurer that could handle an item of such worth!
Mac: You can tell this other  guy, that if he messes with the CLR 2015, I'll have my uncles pay him a visit. They'll make him an offer he can't refuse!
Bob23

rogerschwake

  The varnish was still wet on my trophy when I got home. It's stuck to the shelf where I set it. The one good thing about this is I don't have to worry about insurance, it is stuck to that shelf real good and no one will ever be able to move it.

ROGER

kickingbug1

   not to worry fellas, the trophies have already been obtained (and yes they will have plaques on them this year). all we need do it figure out what they will be for. to all who attended this past summer, i promise that the clr 2015 "cup" race will be sorted out and as always will be about fun . so please lets not be too serious ----ok.  i will admit that i was having too much fun to even notice the problems. hindsight being 20 20, mistakes were made and will not be repeated. i have been told that the "clr news" kind of clogs up the site to i will pull back the reins a bit.
oday 14 daysailor, chrysler musketeer cat, chrysler mutineer, com-pac 16-1 "kicknbug" renamed "audrey j", catalina capri 18 "audrey j"

nies

You are not clogging the web site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The info and posts are of great interest.............................nies

Salty19

Wow, you guys got varnished trophies!  Very nice!

The 2013 trophies seem dull in comparison, yet still thankful to receive it and proud to display it (thanks again kicknbug!).  Looks nice sitting on the CPYOA burgee next to a CLR2010 stein.



It's tough to read, but yes that says First Place in the CLR 2013 race.   You can't beat a CP23 with a CP19 without trying at least a little. Not that this is a
serious race, because it's not, but it is interesting to see performance differences between these boats and put the boats through their paces against one another. 
I don't know...I try to win but not going to cry about coming in last...sort of a "Casual yet competitive" attitude.  It would tell me something about my skills or the way my boat is setup compared to other similar boats which is something most never get to experience. 

As for the race I wasn't there last year but a simple PHRF race should theoretically get most to the finish on time and would be the fairest (and easy) way to run it.

Steve if you want me to Chair the race and make sure everything is planned I would be happy so.  Just say the word.

"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Bob23

  While I don't officially race, you know the old saying: "If there are 2 or more sailboats on the water, there's a race".
  I use a simple but proven technique which originated, so I'm told, here in NJ: Cheat! Lie! Cut off your opponents! And especially, pre-race bribery. Can't wait!
Bob23

kickingbug1

  check if these phrf numbers are correct    cp16--335, suncat--318, catalina capri 18---288, cp19--280, oday25---225.    i dont have numbers on the eclipse although i think its about the same as the catalina. also dont have number on the cp23 or horizon cat. matt probably has all that. mike you hit it on the head with your "race" definition. it cant help but be a little competitive. but it must be friendly.
oday 14 daysailor, chrysler musketeer cat, chrysler mutineer, com-pac 16-1 "kicknbug" renamed "audrey j", catalina capri 18 "audrey j"

Jhansen

Sounds like a lot of fun. Where will it be this year 2015. I'm new to Compac forum but love this cp16ll which is my second Compac. Thanks. James

crazycarl

made my 1st vacation pick today.

july 19th through august 3rd.

i'm hoping to sail the north channel with the trailer sailors association july 20th through the 24, then head home, pick up the mrs. and drive to CLR.

CC
Oriental, "The Sailing Capitol of North Carolina".

1985 Compac 19/II  "Miss Adventure"
1986 Seidelmann 295  "Sur La Mer"

kickingbug1

james, same place carlyle lake in southern illinois (east of st louis)----carl, always know i can count on you. wish i could sail the north channel
oday 14 daysailor, chrysler musketeer cat, chrysler mutineer, com-pac 16-1 "kicknbug" renamed "audrey j", catalina capri 18 "audrey j"