NACA-0014 Rudder Modification Underway

[Bob23]

Hi Doug:
   I checked some West System info I have. It seems that this is common and due to high amounts of moisture present. Yeah, rain usually has high amounts of moisture. I used 205 hardener because I was building in a cool environment. Only 207 hardener is designed for clear coating.
   The info states that mild heat will eliminate the moisture in the epoxy coating.
   Today I'll glass the bottom third or so and pick up some 207 hardener and hopefully wind up this project before I turn 85!
   Doug, I'll email you a photo of the "beast" so far but remember, this is a top secret project and there are some lurking here who don't believe I will ever post photos on this site. If the word gets out about this rudder, Obama may appoint a rudder czar and we all know what that would mean!
Bob23

[brackish]

Bob said it best in an email to me about the rudder project (paraphrasing slightly) describing that the planning and procrastination stage is very important to the outcome of the project.

That Bob is full of helpful bits of wisdom.  Another direct quote that I can use with the Admiral. 

[DOUG142]

Bob23,
Ah! Yes, the old to much moisture thing. 

Yes, I will keep it secret.  I have been following this thread and understand the politics that is going on.  No leaks here.

doug142

[Greene]

Sure Bob23 -  you trust everyone else enough to send them super double secret photos and info on your rudder project, but not me.  I guess I know who you trust......  wait a minute. I did receive an email with pics of the rudder from you.  Sweet, who can I send them to?  Sailnet, Good Ol' Boat, everyone!  You can't stop me now Bob.

Bob23 for Rudder Czar!

Mike (Can't Keep A Secret) Greene

Start of my Foiled Rudder for the 19.  (Not Bob23's)

[DOUG142]

Mr M Greene,

I heard rumors that $$ may be paid to those that can keep secrets of high level rudder workings.
Are you in?

Hint.....Bobs rudder looks very good.  That is all your gonna get out of me, no matter how much you torture me with YOUR fancy rudder pics.

Doug

[Bob23]

  Ok, I see where all this is going. You guys have got wind that I'm independently wealthy and you intend to drain me dry. Well it's not gonna work. Ok, who do I send the check to?
  Well, I didn't glass anything today but instead went out for the first sail of the season aboard my friend and fellow co-conspiritor-in-the-construction-trade Dennis' 1970 Morgan 30. Once aboard, we cracked the previously requisitioned beer and ceremoniously poured some in the Barnegat Bay to officially signal the start of the season. 'Twas a sweet sail, gents!
Bob23

[DOUG142]

Bob,
Soooooooooooo glad you got your first sail in for the season.  We are still landlocked here in Southeastern Wis.  Raining on and off all weekend and not very warm outside.  Summer Escape is all ready to go.  Even charged up the old VHF handheld to take along when we CAN go sailing.

If we just move South a few hundred miles.  hummmmmmmmmmmm.

Congrats.
Doug142

[brackish]

  Well, I didn't glass anything today but instead went out for the first sail of the season aboard my friend and fellow co-conspiritor-in-the-construction-trade Dennis' 1970 Morgan 30.

Would that be a traditional keel centerboard model Morgan 30.  A sweet boat.  The mentor of our sailing group when I was in my late twenties (he was over seventy at the time) the late Henig Forman had one.  Spent a lot of time on that boat.  Most memorable was doing the Gulfport to Pensacola race, part of the GORC series.  The race wasn't much but hanging out with Henig and my buddies the crew was a real treat.

[Bob23]

Yes, keel centerboard. About 5 years ago my friend bought it from a marina for 1500 clams with a new Yanmar. It was the deal of the century. He loving restored it and keeps her in pristine condition. She's a fast boat, narrow in beam and we regularly pass most boats in her length range.
Bob23

[Salty19]

If anyone is interested:

I have a 3" long piece of a NACA0012 foil made from HDPE that is the size to fit a CP19.   This is the bottom few inches of an IDA rudder which I cut off as it was too long (ordered that way, but thought it was too long when I received it).

The foil shape at the cut is 100% intact.

Would be happy to send this to anyone who wants the actual foil piece to model it from.  I would only ask that you return the piece when you're finished with it so I can loan it out again or later use it for my own reference.  Send me an email if you want to borrow it...email is in my profile (click on my name to the left to get the address).

Since this is designed for the 19, I make no promises that the size is appropriate for other boats.

I will give Greene first preference since he's looking to build one now. 

[Greene]

Thanks Salty19, but I am almost done fiberglassing my new 19 foil rudder.  I stayed with the NACA 0014 shape as it worked well on the first one.  It seems to be a lot easier to do the second one.  Who says I'm untrainable?  We all certainly appreciate the offer.  That profile should make it pretty easy for others to get started.  I sure wish this entire thread would have been here when I was starting on my first rudder.  Fortunately several members gave me all the info and advice I needed to complete the project successfully.

You think Bob23 is actually working on a rudder?

Mike

[Salty19]

You think Bob23 is actually working on a rudder?

Mike

I will believe it when the said forementioned untouched pictures are posted. 
Until then...figment of the imagination from the Garden State!

You seem to work on projects with a feverish pace!  I work slow but steadily on boat projects.  Admittedly I didn't and won't get everything done this spring I wanted to do, but have plenty of time once Island Time arrives in her slip next week. 

This week is the barrier coat and bottom paint (it better not rain!!!), do a little work on the outboard, fix a small leak on the cabin rails (optional this week, it can wait until next) and get all the lines in place for launching next weekend.   

I was going to make the roller furling this week (Doug142 made me a nice mahagony spool-you are the man, Doug!) but I don't think the genoa I have will fit (luff a bit too long).   So may need to have it modified or buy a new headsail.

[Greene]

Salty19 "You seem to work on projects with a feverish pace!"

Yep, just one of my many, many character flaws.  I am basically a really lazy guy that has a bulldog determination on projects.  A little weird, but it works for me.

The Admiral is a little happier with me because I am finally reducing the fleet instead of adding to it.  I had one old powerboat hauled away and sold another.  The fleet is down from 5 to 3.  As soon as I get the nerve up to sell Puppy Luff it will be down to a very neat 2.  NO boats outside the garages?  I haven't seen that in a long time.

Mike

[Salty19]

Now that's a dichotomy if I've heard one...Lazy and determined all in one package. 
There are people that can help with such flaws, you know.  j/k

It will truly be fun to meet you and Brenda in July.

[newt]

Hang in there Bob, this modification projects can be a bit tiring. Just do not let it get you down...