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Started by ehall686, July 08, 2011, 07:13:31 PM

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ehall686

Just got a CP19 (my first sail boat) that has not been in the water for 8 years. All of the turn buckles were off the stays (?) and in a bucket inside the cabin.

I got them all on but the front and back stays have no adjustment in the turnbuckles at all just a couple of turns on the threads. I'm just skating around looking for photos of how to rig this boat up. I have a rolling sail on the front if that helps. A few other things wrong but it looks to be pretty lake worthy, it may go out Monday.

Billy

Where are u located? Have someone help you set it up.  There should be a turnbuckle on the back stay.

The rolly saily thingy on the pointy end of the boat is called a roller furling. This is a great option to have on a sailboat as it will keep you from having to go forward and you can stay in the cockpit. Is your main halyard set up to go to the cockpit?

A 19 is a great 1st boat! find out if you can reef your main, this will keep you safe if the wind picks up.

Billy
1983 Com-Pac 19 I hull number 35 -no name-

rdcvsmith

Welcome,

Sailing is great fun, but don't be in to much of a hurry (you just got the boat, you have questions about rigging and you want to be on the water by Monday!)

READ
- Everything on this web site
- Books - there are plenty of hard copies out there as well as some as ebooks now
- Catalogs - the hard copies of the West Marine & Defender catalogs can offer info as well

VIDEOS
- Lots of stuff on the web, You Tube, and at many manufacturers & venders web sites

LOCAL HELP
- you're asking questions here (which is good, and you'll get some help), but start looking for some local sources as well

Regarding the stays (the wires) and their connectors (turnbuckles, clevis pins, etc) - I have an original owners manual for the CP19 and even it doesn't go into any detail (it just assumes the right one is where it should be, etc.) and tells you to tighten them up.

If something goes wrong with your standing rigging (this whole system that attaches the mast to the boat) when you're sailing...then bad things happen.

Find a local rigger or professional sailing instructor and ask them to check over your rigging work before you go out.

Post pics here (I do all the time) and ask for comments, you'll get responses

At the very least, ask questions at your local West Marine, some of the sales staff do have correct answers sometimes.

Again, welcome, I am a new CP19 owner as well, and I love this boat already

-Ray

ehall686

#3
I'm going to work hard at this and get my terms correct so I don't sound like such a green horn
QuoteWhere are u located?
I live in Michigan about 4 miles off the Grand Traverse Bay,  a 30 mile long bay going north-south and about 10 miles wide off lake Michigan.
I have an experienced sailor coming to help me out on Sunday to step out the mast. and west marine is only a couple miles away if I need parts.
QuoteIs your main halyard set up to go to the cockpit?
ummmm yes, the main line has a cleat labeled for it.

Greene

Welcome.  You will love learning to sail on a 19.  They are forgiving and very stiff in a breeze.  Just don't accept any offers to race anybody for money! 

Don't worry about the technical terms and all the goofy language associated with sailing.  It is all part of the fun of learning to sail.  My wife still swears that a "sheet" cannot possibly be line. 

Play in the test area and figure out how to post some pics.  This will really make it a lot easier to ask questions about the different repairs/adjustments/purchases you want to get help on. 

Mike and Admiral B
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
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ehall686

Did some driveway sailing today all the sails up and looks like everything is a go for some sailing ....weather permitting for the novice that I am.  T-storms are moving in today.  We had some drive by neighbors seeing all the sails up, saying "that boat would work better in the water instead of on the street"  I'll post some photos this week of the boat

skip1930

#6
Once the 'stick' is up lay down in the Vee Birth and site up the mast through the open fwd hatch. From there you can see any bend imposed onto the mast by the standing rigging. Take the bends out, stand her straight up.

For me the set of standing rigging under the spreaders is a tad looser then the outer set of standing rigging attached atop the stick.

skip.

Billy

Yea, don'yt over tighten. All you need is enough tension to hold up the mast. When under sail, the leeward stay would barely be tight, just a little loose.
1983 Com-Pac 19 I hull number 35 -no name-

ehall686

Thanks for all your replies. We had a nice day sail on Monday the winds were light but good to start out with and get the feel of the boat.  Here is a couple of shots of the boat and the rigs:




bmiller

Looks like you got it all figured out, especially in the second photo.

rdcvsmith


skip1930

Yep, head sail sheets on the outside of everything.

skip.

Salty19

ehall--Nice looking boat.  I gave you some karma for loading pics and for replying back.  Most new members post and ask a question, then you rarely hear back from them. 

I noticed you aren't using cotter pins on turnbuckles (forgive me if you are, just can't see 'em).  Suggest doing so to avoid an untimely demasting. Those turnbuckes can and do unscrew themselves.   I'm guessing you knew this and are in shroud tuning mode, but just in case...some friendly advice worth $.02. 

Also it looks like the headsail is loaded the wrong way on the furler.  The UV strip should be outside the entire length.  An easy fix by loading the furler in the opposite manner.

Another thing--last thing I promise..it appears as if you are missing the front stainless end cap around the rub rail.  Hutchins co can hook you up with a new one. 

I'm trying to figure out what year your boat is.  Looks like a 1982 or 1983?
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

skip1930

"I noticed you aren't using cotter pins on turnbuckles (forgive me if you are, just can't see 'em). ", says Salty 19.

Perfect advice. I lew of cotter pins there are spring split circle clips as well. These can't snag sails or skin. But a pain to install.

I have not undone my port or starboard standing rigging for years. The stick can be lowered with these in place.

I just loosen up the stern and pull my Harken pin to lower. Once down pull it out of the tabernacle and I off set the mast on 2 x 4's u-bolted to the stern and bow pulpits. Off set so I can get down below deck in the winter storage time.

skip.

ehall686

Good eye on the photos that's why I posted them. Thanks for throwing in your two cent for the 2 cents that I have not spent yet. Your right I don't  have the pins on there and I have a box of circle pins that I should put on.
We did load the head sail wrong. I did make it hard to open with the ropes.
The bow stainless part...The last owner kissed a breakwall and the piece came off. I was looking at maybe a bowsprit. I have 2 x 6 mahogany pieces and some birch (white) to laminate together to make it. I still will need the stainless parts though.

I am here to stay, you all are going to deal with a green horn, I hope that I don't drive you all crazy.