CP23 what is it 23/1 -23/2?

[Epic1969]

Hello, I recently put a down payment on a CP23 and worked a deal out with seller to pick up in early April. The add says boat is a 1981 Compac 23/2 with HID ABV00065M80F-23 I believe this is the 65th cp23 built. Can anyone give me more info about 23/1 vs 23/2 status as well as general features in this serial no. range?  I read that the new model year started in August of the previous year so it could have been made in 1980 but be considered a 1981.

Thank in advance,
Erik

[Mas]

Hello Eric,

A couple things will instantly tell you mk1 vs mk2. The mk2's had a bowsprit and the slide away galley (sink and stove). they are the most visible of the changes. Believe there were some hull liner changes and a little upgrade on the teak below decks as well. There some changes in how builders handled HIN's so not sure about the actual date of build. Might wanna contact Hutchins, they are very helpful.

Welcome to the owners of the coolest little yacht still made!

[Shawn]

Based on the HID it was built in January of 1980. It will be a mark I. Mark I did not come with a bowsprit (might have been added later) and the interior is simpler than the later boats.Less teak trim in places. Bulkheads will be solid without the cutouts that make it feel bigger inside. It won't have cabinets behind the quarterberths, on the plus side the quarterberths are wider and more comfortable to sleep on. Won't have the enclosed storage under the companionway and the sink may be located there.

Shawn

[Epic1969]

How much performance is gained by the addition of a bowsprite?

[HeaveToo]

I can't comment to the amount of performance but it adds a ton of convenience too.

A bow sprit is the best anchor holder.  You can leave your ground tackle attached an up on the bow sprit.

Supposedly it also helps with the helm.  It adds a bit so sail area as well.

You can buy a retro fit kit from Compac for the bow sprit.  It is probably pretty reasonable (everything I have bought from Compac has been reasonable so far).  Another suggestion on this is to retrofit with the newer bobstay that is solid. 

[Mas]

"The add says boat is a 1981 Compac 23/2"

Hey Erik, your questions lead us to believe that you think the add is incorrect about being a Mk2. The HIN definitely shows an 80 build and #65 on the number to date. Shawn says a January build which is determined by the letter by the number 80. I agree sounds like a Mk 1. Have you seen the boat? The various differences described should instantly tell whether a MK1 or 2!

Heave Too says :(everything I have bought from Compac has been reasonable so far). So guess you could just get a Mk4 and be done with it and have have of us jealous!
I would second the bow sprit add. It will add sail area and facilitate ground tackle handling. A picture will answer everything.

Good luck with sorting this out.

[Mas]

This should help:

MK-I (1979-1983) Round bronze portholes, no bowsprit, solid interior bulkhead, gel coat interior ceiling, companionway galley, 2900lbs displacement

MK-II (1984-1987) Bowsprit, cut-away interior bulkhead, beaded ceiling, hideaway galley, 3000lbs displacement

MK-III (1988-?) Oval bronze portholes, smoked forward hatch cover

MK-IV () All stainless steel portholes, hardware, and mooring cleats, foil rudder blade,

Notes:
1989 - 9HP diesel inboard offered as an option
1994 - Vinylester resin added to the outer layer to aid in preventing osmotic blistering.

[Epic1969]

Thanks for the replies guys! I sold my cp16 recently so I am familiar with compacs. I am planning on keeping it on the water all next summer. While the CP16 is very easy to set up I still missed a couple days sailing because of the hassle of setup and tear down for an evening cruise. It is great to be able to untie and shove off in 5 minutes. I sold the CP16 because I have 5 kids < 15 and a wife so quickly realized it was to small and was therefore not able to take everyone on a sail together as a family. I also will be sailing on Erie out of Catawba island so needed a bigger boat. Maybe I am naive but I made a deal on a CP23 within 5 hours driving sight unseen. I have seen many pictures and believe the seller is an honest guy. Crossing fingers it is as nice as pics show. I know I will spend a couple weeks bringing it into excellent condition so I am not expecting a perfect boat, just structurally sound (I hope)!

[brackish]

MK-IV () All stainless steel portholes, hardware, and mooring cleats, foil rudder blade,

In addition, completely redesigned companionway area with new electrical panel.  The good - a really nice job with the panel; the bad - it dropped the head space under the companionway stair to 14.25" making it difficult to find a large cooler that will fit.

It also listed the displacement at 3200 lbs.  I called to ask what they had added to get to that weight.  Hutchins said nothing really it just crept up over time which leads me to believe that maybe from the two on they were heavier than advertised.

[Mas]

MK-IV () All stainless steel portholes, hardware, and mooring cleats, foil rudder blade,

In addition, completely redesigned companionway area with new electrical panel.  The good - a really nice job with the panel; the bad - it dropped the head space under the companionway stair to 14.25" making it difficult to find a large cooler that will fit.

It also listed the displacement at 3200 lbs.  I called to ask what they had added to get to that weight.  Hutchins said nothing really it just crept up over time which leads me to believe that maybe from the two on they were heavier than advertised.

So since the Mk3 23D is listed as 3300lb displacement it might really be 3500. The ballast ratio prob doesn't change as the engine sits low and centered so actually adds ballast. Now Brackish if you really want to lose some storage space under the companionway I recommend in addition to the new panel set up you add a diesel...poof gone!

Erik, I totally agree on the keep her ready to sail. We even eventually found a spot where we could keep our CP16 fully rigged sans fuel and OB sitting on her trailer close to the ramp. With a 23 now we don't even want to have to deal with launch even if fully rigged on trailer. It is nice to know though you can pull her if wished or needed. You have pics of the soon to be adopted daughter?!