reset on outboard that failed the second time

[BruceW]

I went to get my CP 23 on Wednesday, started up river, sailing some, then motored an hour, and same failure as before. Apparently, more gunk was in the lines, fuel pump etc.

So, we sailed until nearly dark, went up to a camp dock, got permission to stay overnight, and called my sailing club for a ride. 

Borrowed a motor for Thursday motor sailing in the rain. Got to the destination before dark.

So, I called the dealer I got the Suzuki from, and he apologized, offered my money back. Said he'd like to wait for warmer weather to re-fix this one. I agreed.

Next up: selection of a motor. I've found such trouble from people using ethanol that I thought I'd consider a new motor. Looked at a Yamaha 6; would consider one of those Tohatsu sail prop 6's too. This is much more expensive than I planned, but I think I'll be happier. 

Any experiences out there with these two motors?

[Billy]

I got a sail-pro and I love it. Use the search feature at the top right. This engine has been discussed before and there is lots of info and experiences documented.

If you don't want ethanol maybe you should consider this.....
http://golehr.com/lehr-marine/

or this.....
http://www.emarinesystems.com/categories/Electric-Drives/Torqeedo-Electric-Drive/?gclid=CMnIwMq35bsCFSRk7AodIEAAYQ

[atrometer]

Tohatsu makes Mercury, Nissan, and I think others.  It's the best selling outboard in Japan.  I had a 6 HP "sailpro" with alternator and EXTRA long shaft. GREAT motor!

[BruceW]

That extra long shaft is another thing; I see I can get the 20 I am used to or a 25.  Did you have trouble getting it all the way out of the water when you raise/tilt it?

[Billy]

That extra long shaft is another thing; I see I can get the 20 I am used to or a 25.  Did you have trouble getting it all the way out of the water when you raise/tilt it?

Check out my post (about the 4th one down)

http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=6034.0

there has been A LOT posted about outboards on this forum. More answers than questions. Try the search.

[Shawn]

25" Sailpro is a great engine on the 23. No problems getting it out of the water. I have a Racor filter inline to the Tohatsu that is also a fuel/water separator.

Shawn

[Bob23]

Shawn:
Which filter do you have? I was thinking of adding one to my 8 hp Nissan.
Thanks,
Bob23

[BruceW]

Billy,

Thanks for the link; no info there on my actual question, although someone on this thread did answer it, so that was good. I did search about outboards when you suggested it the first time, and read a bunch of things that weren't about what my question was. I'm sure it is boring for you guys to discuss the same things over and over again.

So, lots of fans of the Sail pro; that's good.

I liked the Yamaha, but it didn't have the 25" shaft, which I saw comments about keeping in the water during swells. I am also considering the capability of the sail pro to charge my battery. I really need a trickle charger, but if I get some charging for motoring out of the slip and down the creek to the river, that's a bonus.

Next thing is to decide whether to bite the bullet for a new engine, vs trying another used one. Yeah, sure, I'll do a search on that too.


PS, When I finished writing the above  I read it over, and thought it was funny; then this morning I re-read it and it seems snarkier than I meant. I apologize for that.

[brackish]

I have the SailPro and like it for many reasons.  I did a review on it a search will get you there.  However, I learned something new about it yesterday.  I've had some trouble figuring out how the tilt lock worked, and thought there was only one lock position, with the motor almost horizontal. I didn't like that because it also had to be turned, tiller down to eliminate any oil seepage and that interfered with my motor lock and made the shaft stick out too far.   Figured out yesterday that there is a intermediate lock position at about 45 degrees.  With my mount at full up position, and the motor at the 45 degree lock position, it will be out of the water by about an two inches, only after I leave the boat getting my weight out of the cockpit.

Was up at the boat to do some "engineering" work to correct the rudder/tiller mechanism so that it won't pop out by just water pressure and to develop a tiller/motor quick remove linkage that will make the motor turn when the tiller is turned for more low speed control when docking and maneuvering in traffic.  Think I've got both figured out, more on them when proven.

With regard to plugged carb jets, I continue to have excellent results by never running dry and never disconnecting anything.  This motor has been continuously connected to the fuel supply since new about 8 months ago.  I just replenish the tank with alcohol free gas when needed.  No additives.  When I go to the boat, one pump on the bulb, two pulls on the starter and off she goes. The theory is empty bowls, lines, etc. allow the condensation of water on their surfaces which cause enough corrosion to create jet clogging gunk.  I try to start it every two weeks minimum, but it has been up there for over a month without being started.

[BruceW]

Great info; I am still getting used to my bracket. Hard to visualize the motor fitting in there when bracket is up. When I go to boat (couple hours from home) I'll see what it looks like. The bracket looks strong, but it's wobbly.

Back to the tilt, that's great info as well.

It will be interesting to see your tiller to motor linkage.

I found where you bought yours from onlineoutboards. They have a good price on it.  So, when you got yours, you just put the oil in, and it was good to go? That's what their FAQ says.

Thanks for info; I'll check out your review.

I think I'll probably put sea foam in the gas; if I can always buy ethanol free, I will. The yamaha guys were swearing by that blue liquid Star something, for use with E 10, but I'd rather just avoid it altogether. I'm so used to unhooking the gas line hose from motor, and also draining the line on tank end, that I may have to keep doing that, haha, but I'm glad you are having great results without doing such.

[brackish]

So, when you got yours, you just put the oil in, and it was good to go?

Yep, that's it.  Spent more time picking the Styrofoam bits off of it than anything else, it comes packed in a styro clamshell.

[frank]

Try these guys for the sail pro. Free delivery and no tax   http://internetoutboards.com/   I've bought 3 OB's from them over the years. Easy to deal with.    PS...one was the 6HP, 25in shaft sail pro. Great lil OB. Super on fuel as well!!!

[Shawn]

Hi Bob,

It is a Racor 120R-RAC-01. It is mounted under the fuel tank cover in the top corner of that space. I use a 2x4 spacer to keep the fuel tank pushed to the other side.

Shawn

[MacGyver]

I had a 2 stroke mariner, bullet proof little engine, but kinda messy, and noisy. was a 4 hp.

I sold it and bought from the internetoutboards.com place a 6hp Tohatsu Sailpro ultra long shaft and man that is a awesome engine.
1/4 throttle for the 19 and we are probably as fast as the boat will go.
engine runs well, and starts easy.

Well worth the investment. If mine sells with my 19, I will buy another for a 23 that I plan to purchase.

Mac

[gfspencer]

So is everyone saying to get the extra-long shaft?

How hard is it to back up with the exhaust coming out of the prop?