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What Kind of Sail Is This

Started by Saluki86, May 02, 2013, 09:14:53 AM

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Saluki86

When I bought my C16, this was in a bag.  It measures 140" (luff) x 140" (leech) x 120" (foot...I think those terms are correct).  If I worked the formula correctly, it is around 52.5 sq ft. 

The material is very thin....almost soft.  There are not marking or anything printed on it of anykind.  I am assuming it is some type of light wind foresail.  Do I need some type of pole with it?

Thanks,
Saluki 


nies

 It is a drifter, I have one also, a pole helps in light air.....................nies

Salty19

A pole is useful for ANY headsail going downwind.

I bet that's a 145 or so without doing any math.  Might be a drifter, those can be sized fairly large or in the 130-180% range depending on preference.

Is it nylon or sailcloth? Usually drifters are coated or ripstop nylon.

Here are the specs of the 110 and 155 for reference.

Sail Area: 110% Jib  -  43ft.2

Sail Area: 155% Genoa  -  60ft.2

That red arrow is indicative of the sail being made by Johnson, aka JSI. This was the OEM sailmaker for Hutchins when they made the early 16s
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

philb Junkie19

Some people call this light nylon sail a genniker.

nies

New word for me, but with 16 inches of snow last night in Hayward, Wis. I will have plenty of time to research it, will winter never end????????....nies

Saluki86

Thanks Salty, Philb and NIES for the replies.

Great info about JSI.  I had actually seen that arrow on other sails before but thought it was identifying the tack.

I believe it is made of nylon.  It doesn't feel like any of the other sails.

Soooo.....novice here.....what is the difference between a genoa, jib and drifter?  Just the size?  Does a genoa have hanks?

I am kind of anxious to try it out.  Wind is light in the summer here.

philb Junkie19

 I got that wrong. Looks Like a Gennaker doesn't hank on and flys free off the halyard.  I have a sail like the one pictured and have been thinking it was a Gennaker. Live a lot learn a little.

JTMeissner

Saluki, I have the same sail.  Link to info and discussion of rigging here: http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=6061.0

There are times that I would like to have a pole; just means I have to adjust the course to best use the winds I have at the time.  I fly it a lot, and sometimes rig both foresails in their bags by the pulpit so I can quickly change between the two if need be.

-Justin

Saluki86

Thanks Justin!!

Duh.....I guess I should have searched the forum first before posting!  Note to self.....

If I may ask, how to you rig them both at the same time?  Do you have multiple forestays?

Harrier

"...what is the difference between a genoa, jib and drifter?"

Not sure about the drifter, but what I've come to understand is that a genoa is simply a jib that has a leech which extends aft beyond the mast.  The size (150, 130, etc) is normalized to sail area between the forestay and mast.  That theoretical area is "100%".   A 130 genoa is 30% more sail area then that theoretical 100%.