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[beradthefish]

Hello everyone!  It took me a while to find these forums as I searched the Internet for information about Com-Pac boats.  For a couple weeks, Google would warn that the cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com domain would be 'harmful to my computer'.  Then I noticed that the message went away so here I am.  No idea what that was all about, but either way, glad I found this and glad to be on here!

I recently sold a small trimaran, which I really enjoyed.  The only problem with it was, I couldn't realistically take the family sailing (wife and 3 year old).  They don't enjoy sitting on hot black trampolines or not having a cabin/head.

My criteria for a new sailboat include true ease of trailering and rigging and something that the three of us could overnight/weekend every so often.  Also the ability to have four adults and a few kids on board.  We move every two years or so, part of the reason I'm a dedicated trailer sailor.

I perceive that the Horizon or even the Eclipse may fit the bill and I'd like to see them in person, so if there's anyone near Columbia, SC that would be kind enough to show us yours, please advise!

There's a Horizon for sale in Union Hall, VA, but I can't seem to reach the point of contact via phone or e-mail.

Thanks for having me, I look forward to reading through this forum!

[Salty19]

Welcome!

The google warning was an attack we had here at the forum...it's all cleared up now.

There is a person with a Horizon out of SC...I've seen them on the CPYOA Facebook page, they have participated in the Florida 120.
If you use Facebook, join the group and look for "Isabella" (think that was her name).  If you're not on facebook, let me know and I'll try to link the two of you up.
Don't know of an Eclipse out your way..surely there has to be someone nearby.

Never sailed a Horizon but they appear to be extremely nice boats.  The Eclipse.. gorgeous and they sail well too. Probably a cat vs. sloop decision, but the Horizon has a wider beam so more room inside.  They are also more expensive, generally speaking.

[brackish]

Charlie Mclemore and Isy are in Yemasse (Beaufort) SC.  Have a Horizon Cat and prior to that had a Sun Cat.  Regular contributors on the TSBB and have done the FL120 and BEER a number of times.   Charlie just posted a long pictorial recap of this years FL120 on the TSBB.  Very funny!

[Billy]

Don't the Horizon Cats only sleep two in separate births?

I'd go with the Eclipse (or an older 19).

Plus I think Sloops are more fun to sail, and point higher too. 

[beradthefish]

Thanks for the responses.  I am on FaceBook, so I'll try to look up that individual. 

I have read that a cat boat won't point as high as a sloop, but also that the difference is not that much, don't know the real deal.

Thanks again!

[beradthefish]

Also - I just tried to search for CPYOA on FaceBook, didn't get any results except for links to this forum.  How do I get there?

[Salty19]

Do a search on Facebook..  "Com-pac Yacht Owners Association"   Should pop up.
There is not nearly as much activity there as here, but it will get you the Isy and Charlie.

[beradthefish]

Thanks again all- a few more questions if you please. I'm currently considering an Eclipse In FL.  Link:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2454991&checked_boats=2454991&ybw=&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=22824&url=&imc=pg-

First, if anyone is familiar with this boat, it'd be great to hear from you.

Second, what are your thoughts on surveys? My first boat, I bought from a trusted source. My second was new, this is my first foray into a used boat in this way.

Third, for any further Eclipse related questions, I'll be sure to post in the proper thread!

Thanks again!

[Rahn]

Have you been on both boats? If cabin space is important to you, you should get on both the Eclipse and the Horizon Cat. I found the Eclipse cabin to be too small for the cruising I planned to do. Both my son and I are over 6 feet and the V-birth was not an option for us as a birth (small children maybe). I'm also very much enjoying learning to sail a gaff-rigged catboat though I do miss a jib.

I just got back from my first solo cruise in the North Channel of Canada (2 weeks) on my Horizon Cat and the boat performed flawlessly. Good luck with your search.

[beradthefish]

That's good info, thanks!  My wife and I are short enough for the Eclipse, we have one small child.

The Horizon has more room, but looks to me that it only sleeps two.

Either way, I'm at square 1 again, the Eclipse I mentioned sold on Friday!

I'm sort of partial to having a job as well. **edit** a jib.  I mean a jib, though I'm also happy to have a job as well!

[carry-on]

There is an Eclipse on craigslist Orlando. Advertised as new. The gent has a Legacy also. These boats have been on the market for quite a while. Could be worth a look and an offer.

[wes]

OK, I know I'm biased, but you can usually find used CP 19s for $3k to $5k (I paid $3500 for my 1988). Wonderful classic boat, sloop rig, sleeps four in considerable comfort as long as two of them are children or hobbits. I don't need no stinking Mastendr...

Wes

[beradthefish]

There is an Eclipse on craigslist Orlando. Advertised as new. The gent has a Legacy also. These boats have been on the market for quite a while. Could be worth a look and an offer.

Carry on- I see it. Replied to the post. If it is indeed new, that would seem like a good price, maybe too good?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/3099516052.html

Doesn't include an outboard I don't think.

[Billy]

There is an Eclipse on craigslist Orlando. Advertised as new. The gent has a Legacy also. These boats have been on the market for quite a while. Could be worth a look and an offer.

Carry on- I see it. Replied to the post. If it is indeed new, that would seem like a good price, maybe too good?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/3099516052.html

Doesn't include an outboard I don't think.

Star Marine in St. Petersburg has some of the best deals on the Tohatsu Sail Pro around. If you are looking to buy an engine, I suggest you start here. I have had an excellent experience dealing with them!

[carry-on]

I read the ad weeks ago. Believe he is selling the trailer as an add on. Same for the Legacy. So trailer and motor gets the price in the $21K area. I have never been in the Eclipse market, so the price of a new unit is a mystery to me. There are several records of completed Eclipse sales at sailingtexas.com. The asking price for a five to six year old unit seems to be in the upper teens to low $20s. Not many show up on the market. Probably not many made.
If you get an opportunity to look at a CP-19, you might take a look. They are very fine boats, probably a little tougher to trailer and rig than the Eclipse, but the space is similar and you should get a great package under $10K . The last 19s built are now ten years old, but the way ComPac are built, ten years is nothing if the boat was not abused.
Back to the Eclipse: I would think the seller is ready to deal, these boats have been for sale quite a while. Either they are not as advertised or the seller won't deal.
Try to enjoy the search!