Shopping questino: Older vs Newer 16

[dwkfym]

In shopping for a CP16, what are the differences between an older and newer CP16? 
a year to year changes would be very nice but I would think thats difficult information to get. 
Right now all I know is somewhere in the mid 80's, they added a bowsprit.  And one year, they went to a bigger headsail, and that the last two years they went to a centerboard. 

Also, if there are changes, what effect do they have on the boat's performance?

Thank you in advance.

[Salty19]

Somewhere here on the site, the differences are detailed. I recall reading it in the past but can't find it now.

Basic differences..and I'm probably missing a few things.

CP16/II has Bowsprit, spreaders, electric system, nav lights, more teak in the interior, chain locker, 7/8ths rigged forestay (vs 3/4 in earlier models) no aft lazarette (instead a fuel locker in later models). Lifelines became an option.  Some hardware changed such as mainsheet cam cleat/block. Not sure what else. With the taller forestay, the headsail size changed.  Bow pulpit changed to allow for the bowsprit.

Later the CP16XL came stock with the above plus all options such as swim ladder, lifelines, opening forward bomar hatch, aft led lines and interiore fiberglass cabin liner.  I believe they also had carpeted wall interiors and teak battens horizontal along the forward portion of the cabin. The non-skid and topside colors changed a bit too (from off white to white for topside, from off white to tan for non-skid). Pulpits changed from alum to stainless. 

Interior fabric, center post shape and minor items (hardware mostly) changed here and there, but I don't know when or what.

CP16CB was an XL with a centerboard.

As hutchins started to allow buyer modifications, we may find CP16/II's with XL-like features or XL's without standard equipment or different hull colors. These fetch the most $$.
The CP16/I's were pretty much identical across the years, but the earliest examples from the 70's had thicker fiberglass sections and there may have been a few hull# specific changes like a swim ladder added by the factory.

They also changed to vinyl ester based gelcoat in the late 80's. Rudder size was changed too, but not sure when. Hull color changed a little from tan to off-white between 82 and 83.

Not many CP16XL or CB's out there.  Same with the 19's, only 3 or so CB's and roughly 40 XL's made (all CB's were XL's with CB). There were less CP16XL's made.  CP16CB's are rare indeed..have only see two for sale n the last few years.

Probably other stuff I've missed, so in no way should this be considered complete.

[JBC]

Very nice summary, Salty.  I would add that the XL version comes after the CP 16/3 version I believe (I have a '90 16/3).  Mine includes much of what you describe for the XL, but no CB of course.  The scuppers change with the lazeret change, and add rubber flaps to the stern.  Mine also has a fuel hose outlet for a motor, higher than the scupper outlets, with a flap.  (Don't know if that's original though).

Also, with any models with a bow sprit, I believe the genoa track with cams and fairleads were standard, from the 16/2 on.

I have a document that came with my boat, along with the official owner's manual for the 16/3, that states that the 16/2 version started with hull #2202 in 1986, and that the XL model added a stern rail and safety lines in 1990, beginning with hull #2756.  (My hull # is 2735), so it's not an XL.

Jett

[carry-on]

If you are looking at pre 1980 models, I understand they had balsa coring in the deck and maybe the cabin roof. Need a good check for soft spots.
I'm sailing a '97 with CB. Less side slip when pointing up, but sails fine without using the CB. The boat is enjoyable on a reach anyway. My unit (2886)does not have teak battens in the cabin, just carpet.
There is an upper hole in the transom for a fuel hose. Fuel storage is open air under a teak slat, hinged cover in the stern. No lazerette storage but also less chance for water to get below decks. There are two access ports on the benches at the stern.
My jib tracks are on the cabin roof. Don't know if this was an option. Puts the sheets inside the shrouds vs the builders advice.
Also have a gallows and mast tender..probably options and the main sheets go to a mid boom traveler.
The hull is about the same throughout the years. The bow sprit and 7/8 rig gives a little better sail balance and I think the sprit completes the line.
Condition is more important than year in my view. If you find a good hull, rigging, spars, sail package,ob and road worthy trailer the year is not critical.

[deisher6]

Our '89 is about as described above except it has the jib sheeted to a sliding cam cleat on a track on top of the seat coaming.

I very much agree on condition is more important than year.

good luck

regards charlie

[NateD]

Here was the earlier post that Salty referred to: http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=2690.msg15883