Replacement water tank

[Shawn]

Anyone replace the water tank in their 23? If so what did you use and where did you put it? Did you stay with the original 11 gallon tank or go bigger?

I think mine leaks slightly. I assume it is the original bladder down below the starboard v-berth.

If I do replace it I think I will also follow Brackish's lead and add a 2 gpm pump as well and hose bib as detailed at:

http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=3459.0

The pump will make the system more usable and also keep it easier to flush the water to try and keep fresh.

Might try and put the water tank in the storage area below the front of the v-berth to get the weight on the centerline of the boat and a little bit more forward.

Thanks,

Shawn

[Bob23]

Let me know what you find out. I was thinking of replacing my original bladder (THAT sounded wierd) with a plastic tank and adding the pump as you noted.  I plan to put it where the original is...pretty far forward already.
bob23

[brackish]

Haven't replaced mine, but the original tank is now a hard tank or at least it is on my '05.  I think it is still 11 gallons.  The tank is an odd shape in that it seems to wedge nicely under the forward starboard bunk strapped in place with working room aft of it to attach the hose and fittings.   The most recent price spread sheet I have from ComPac shows it at about 78 bucks.  However, I'm sure it is OEM for a lot of boats and can be bought closer to home.  However, I think your centerline location is a better option.

The pump is wonderful!!  Recently pumped the tank from full to dry in about five minutes, using the water for a deck wash down.  Then pumped in a gallon of non toxic anti freeze just in case there was some residual water in the pump or fittings.  No more draining into the bilge, then pumping out the bilge and drying it out with a sponge to get what I couldn't get by pumping.  No more bursitis flare ups with that vertical stroke, manual pump.

[Shawn]

Bob,

It is pretty far forward but with the water and battery on the same side I'd like to see if I can move the water more to the middle of the boat. Esp. if I went up on capacity. Plastimo makes a triangular water bladder which is probably to big to fit that space but that shape would be about perfect for up there.

Shawn

[Shawn]

Brackish,

Glad to hear you like the pump. My manual pump leaks out the top so it makes it hard to get it primed and then after it leaks a fair amount of water. Feels like it takes forever to pump out the tank. Would be nice to attach a hose and let it pump itself out in a couple of minutes.

Thanks,

Shawn

[BruceW]

hmm, does this mean I have a water tank? haha, I haven't noticed it. Wonder where it would be on the 1980 Mark I? Guess I had better check that out, huh.

[jcatkeson]

My 1982 CP23 has a water tank which is located just aft of the ladder from the cockpit. It is a big plastic jug (less than ten gallons and more than five) and is removable for filling purposes. Its sole purpose is to provide water for the absurdly useless sink which hides behind the top step of the ladder. The sink empties into the bilge from which the water is discharged via bilge pump. I am happy to read that improvements have been made in later models. Since I don't cruise on the 23 I have never given the plumbing system much thought. My heresy is that I crew a bigger boat, a Cal 33,  for cruising.

[Greene]

It seems all these bladder water tanks become leak monsters sooner or later.  On Wrinkles we gave up on the worthless little pull out sink and simply keep it on a shelf in the garage.  We find it much easier (for a trailerable sailboat ) to put a couple gallon jugs of fresh water on board each time we go out.  No leaky tank, old water or worrying about emptying it out when the boat won't be used for a week or more.

If you do decide to replace the bladder, I recently saw an ad for a soft tank that is put into position and then filled with air to form itself to the location.  Then the inner bladder is treated somehow to harden the tank walls.  Interesting idea.  I'll see if I can find the brand and a link.

Mike

[Shawn]

"On Wrinkles we gave up on the worthless little pull out sink and simply keep it on a shelf in the garage."

The factory sink isn't great, but a deeper sink makes it far more usable. I put in a larger basin, new tap, pressurized water and it is handy. While making the new board for the sink I also added a single burner Origo to the same side and removed the two burner from the other side. That opened up a lot of storage space for sails, foul weather gear and PFDs.



Shawn

[Greene]

Nice modification.  The extra storage allowed by removing the factory sink sure is nice.   We don't use our factory pull-out stove on Wrinkles either.  We use a simple one burner portable butane stove.  I do like your changes and if we do end up sailing Wrinkles one more year I may copy your idea.

Mike

[BruceW]

Is there any reason I shouldn't just remove my water tank? Any issues I need to know about in the removal process? I think it's just taking up space I could use. I always just bring water aboard in a jug.

[Bob23]

My bladder or should I say the bladder kn my 23 was cruddy from day 1. I use 2 5 gallon Reliant water jugs and recently bought the siphon pump. The jugs are stored in the lockers forward of the bulkhead.
  I also removed the sink and made a large (42" long) chart table.  I made a table for the 2 burner Origo stove on the port side which gave me a lot of workspace next to the stove.
Bob 23

[BruceW]

Thanks, Bob,

I take it you just yanked the cruddy one out? I will have to have a cool day to stay up there and mess with it, but that's my plan.

I kind of need a place to put my Gas One butane stove. For now, it's just on the port bunk. I'm trying to put all that stuff away somewhere and then figure out what sort of handy storage place would be good for it. I found that I can put the hatch board out the opening on the ....something there in front of the companionway opening, stand inside the cabin, and cook the water for coffee just fine. I don't fear the heat from the coffee pot, etc on that wood.

Of course, now I'm going to replace that single hatchboard with a dual starboard one, I don't know that I want to lay the new one down for the hot stuff to be on. Hmmm, well, maybe something will come to mind.

[HeaveToo]

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