steaming light replacement Fastoon bulb

[tsaiapex]

Does anyone know the replacement Festoon bulb (maker and parts #) for the steaming light on older model 19/23?  It has round lens and round teak base.

Thanks. 

[Craig Weis]

Take the steaming light out of the socket and over to AutoZone auto parts. Buy a two prong LED lamp that matches what you took out. That's what I did. You'll also have to do the same thing [same bulb?] for the interior lamp.

I don't think there is enough room for a Festooned bulb under the steaming light lens. This festooned 10 x 44 mm one will fit either the bow bi-color or the white stern lamp made by Robert Bosch Company.

Remember. You only turn that bulb on at night when your motoring. You be in violation if the lamp is lit and the sail is up and your not motoring. The steaming light is NOT a correct anchor light as it cannot be seen for 360 deg.

skip.

[Bob Condon]

Sorry Skip, but looking up in the rule books says:

Sailboats Treated as Power Boats When Motoring
Sailboats that are motoring or those that are motor-sailing are treated as power boats under the Coast Guard rules, and must show the lights for their size vessel. If the engine is on and in gear, a sailboat is considered a power boat, even if its sails are up and drawing.




If the engine is on at night, best should the steaming light be on.

When the engine is on, the rules of the road (Give Way Rules)  for a sailboat change and THE OTHER BOATS
need the indication that you are a power boat.

[Billy]

Skip,
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought anytime you were under power (w/ sail up or down) you were considered a power boat and needed to have a white light visable from 360.

In other words, If the motor was pushing, you have to have the steaming light on. Doesn't matter if the sails are up or down. Just like right away rules. Am I wrong?

Bob,
I just replaced my steaming light and got it from Hutchins. THey only charged me about $15-$30. It does not have the teak base, but it works & looks good. Give them a call.

[Craig Weis]

Wait a minute. I said, "You only turn that bulb on at night when your motoring. You be in violation if the lamp is lit and the sail is up and your not motoring." The steaming light is only 112.5 deg from center, both ways. Not 360 which might be mistaken for an anchor light. Don't display an anchor light when motoring.

Opps! Sorry.  You guys are correct according to the Wisconsin book of waterway rules that I am required to have on board my boat at all times. Here is what 'they' say.

I did not know this either, but if you hold down the control key [Ctrl] and tap the plus key + and the print and image will enlarge for each tap. To shrink back down to the original size hold the Ctrl key down and tap the negative -  key...how cool is that?

skip.

[Billy]

CTL + 0 (zero) resets the view.

[Craig Weis]

What does 'reset the view' mean please?
Oh, I see. Back to normal.
dumbskey skipsky.

[Caboose]

A word of caution about LED replacement bulbs. The lights were approved by USCG using the factory supplied bulbs. By not using the proper bulb, that light is no longer valid.

[Salty19]

A word of caution about LED replacement bulbs. The lights were approved by USCG using the factory supplied bulbs. By not using the proper bulb, that light is no longer valid.

Agreed.  LED's are directional in nature..like a laser beam.  Steaming lights are supposed to give off 135 degrees of light.  Unless the LED has multiple bulbs shining in all directions, covering the entire swept area, you are risking not been seen--and perhaps worse being responsible for an incident.

[Craig Weis]

"A word of caution about LED replacement bulbs. The lights were approved by USCG using the factory supplied bulbs. By not using the proper bulb, that light is no longer valid."

True but that only means that the bulb mfg. didn't spend the tens of thousands of $$'s to have them tested and approved....I hate the bureaucracy that this country is put through...a light is a light.

skip.

[Salty19]

"A word of caution about LED replacement bulbs. The lights were approved by USCG using the factory supplied bulbs. By not using the proper bulb, that light is no longer valid."

True but that only means that the bulb mfg. didn't spend the tens of thousands of $$'s to have them tested and approved....I hate the bureaucracy that this country is put through...a light is a light.

skip.

No sir, LED's are unidirectional, halogen/tungsten/other gas bulbs are multi-directional. They are not the same design and have different perception from an observer.  Now with a fresnel lens or multiple LED's?  Much more similar to the observer.  Agreed on the certification and bureaucracy thing...seems like it shouldn't be that big of a deal to certify something, but it is.

[Craig Weis]

What you can't see about this bulb pictured is this LED Festooned bulb it's self has a front
[lighted side with 6 LEDS vertical] and a back un~lighted side. I hope no fool would install the bulb un-lit side out. The bulb sits in a 225 deg reflector split 1/2 red and 1/2 green and shines through a Fresnel lens. It is so much brighter and sharper then the old hot juice sucking bulb. I can't look into it it's that bright. And I did turn it on and walk ashore at night. Yes it's bright.

But burn what ever you like.

skip.

[Salty19]

What you can't see about this bulb pictured is this LED Festooned bulb it's self has a front
[lighted side with 6 LEDS vertical] and a back un~lighted side. I hope no fool would install the bulb un-lit side out. The bulb sits in a 225 deg reflector split 1/2 red and 1/2 green and shines through a Fresnel lens. It is so much brighter and sharper then the old hot juice sucking bulb. I can't look into it it's that bright. And I did turn it on and walk ashore at night. Yes it's bright.

But burn what ever you like.

skip.

Skip, oops, I thought you were talking about the steaming light on the mast that has no fresnel lens.   You're talking about the nav light...while that is not Coast guard approved, I believe you when you say it's too bright to look at!  The fresnel lens is what's changing the uni-directional nature of the LED light, making it (likely) just as safe if not more so.  Sorry 'bout the confusion. 

[Craig Weis]

But you are correct about the unidirectional thing. I bought replacement taillight LED bulbs for my Saturn. Opps Not Good. They only shined 'out' directly from the back end. And nothing from the side. You walk around the car at night and the side red glow usually seen disappears. So that became my auxiliary light inside my CP-19 cabin, and yes it's red. How cool is that?
The reason these bulbs are no good in tail lights is the bulb sits too far out from the reflector. The reflector has nothing to do. No light to reflect.

[Caboose]

I try and make things simple when it comes to lights. My anchor light also serves double duty as my steaming light as well. I have a seperate switch on my stern light. Problem solved and it's less wire/weight aloft.