CP 19 Trailer

[oceanoutdoors]

Looking at new trailer options for a CP 19 .... what are some brands, I see the Magic Tilt on the new boats, any others?

Thanks
Ron

[Billy]

performance trailers, but they went out of business a few years ago. If you can find an old one with a good frame ($400) you could replace the axel, springs, hubs, & weels for another 400.

[Craig Weis]

If you can find an old one with a good frame ($400) you could replace the axle, springs, hubs, & wheels for another $400.

Why springs, axle? Just a set of bearings, the old ones that have the 'Magic Lube' even would be good to go in my honest opinion. Give 'em a look~see. Oh and new 10 rubber. Forget the brakes. You don't need them and stay away from 'tilt' trailers. Find a proper ramp to back down.

skip.

[oceanoutdoors]

Ah..but was looking at a new trailer, don't have one.  Since post have unearthed Road King which manufactures near where I am in NC, and ComPac recommends the Magic Tilt....waiting on quotes, but not cheap !  Been looking for an old Performance but rare !  Thanks !

[Potcake boy]

Ron,

Road King can provide a 2990GVW trailer without brakes and torsion axle suspension, if you got an aluminum frame model then you would eliminate a lot of maintenance issues.  You are not required brakes under 3000#, and whether you'd choose to have them or not should depend on your tow vehicle and your trailing style.  A hefty pickup would be best for it's weight and wheelbase and even with a smaller vehicle you'd be OK if you don't spend all your time trailing on long trips on the interstate at 70 mph.

Some states require a trailer GVW not exceed a specified percentage of the tow vehicle weight without brakes even under 3000# GVW.

Keep in mind that most of these trailer manufacturers are better acquainted with rigs for motorboats, the difference is important.
Motor boats have the most weight at the transom campared to a typical sailboat that has it's CG close to the middle of the hull.  The trailer for a sailboat doesn't need to extend to the transom to support that weight aft as on a motorboat, so motor boat trailers are typically longer for the GVW rating.  Also it is very important to make sure that the weight bearing is on the keel support and not the hull supports.  The hull supports are only to help keep the boat from toppling over and should not bear the weight of the boat.  The keel support must be capable of supporting the weight of the boat.  Rollers for the keel make it a bit easier to retrieve the boat but the front roller can sometimes provide a slight hangup on a steep ramp.

Also keep in mind that unless you have an exceptional ramp you will be required to use the tongue extension to float the boat off the trailer, and believe me when I say that it won't simply slide off.

Ron

[Caboose]

In Virginia, all trailers with more than one axle must have brakes and must be taken to get inspected yearly. Single axle trailers are not required to have brakes. Check with local police and/or DMV for your area for your laws. Remember, it's not just the boat weight, but the added weight of "stuff" to think about as well. Safety is rule number one in sailing and that includes transporting to/from water.

[Salty19]

Champion trailer and Trail N sail can probably make you a new one if you want new.

In large cities there should be several trailer shops that can fab you one. At least there is one where I live. Used sailboat trailers are a rare find depending on your location.  

As for brakes, check your state regs on it.  Where I live I'm not legally obliged to have them (based on EMPTY trailer weight), but with the boat I'm well above state limits.  Still legal.  

I wish I had them despite very strong brakes on my truck. Right now I'm safe IF I drive very cautiously and if bonehead-avoiding defensive manuvuers are not required (which of course you can't predict).  If you're driving much of a distance and don't have strong brakes on your vehicle or if your vehicle is a little overloaded pulling it..think hard about brakes.  

[CaptRon28]

The following url has all of the various states trailer requirements -

http://www.roadkingtrailers.com/brakelaws.htm

Note that these are "requirenemts" and that other factors may prompt many people to add trailer brakes even when not required. Small tow vehicle, steep grades and higher speeds all come to mind.  Pulling 4,000 pounds with a Jeep Wranger vs an F350 dually are totally different experiences.