First Sail on 88 CP19/II

[Greene]

The Admiral and I got out today for our first sail on our 19.  It was a beautiful day in Madison with mild winds to get a feel for the new boat.  Putting the boat in was about what we expected.  We don't have a hitch extender, so the S10 4 Wheeler had to go in until the exhaust pipe was just starting to blow bubbles.  The boat came off as well as one of the keel guides.  We had to circle around the protected inlet to chase down the guide as it floated to the other side.  

The 8 HP Mariner runs like new and is definitely more motor than the 19 needs.  I think we could give someone a pretty good ride on a tube towed behind it.  The recently completed NACA 0014 foiled rudder worked very nicely.  It gave the tiller a very light feel with just enough weather helm for comfort.

We sailed in winds from 6 to 12 mph and were very surprised at how well the 19 moves along with such a small amount of wind.  Having a boat with crisp sails was a pleasure.  Instead of heeling with a gust of wind the boat just accelerates.  We pulled out the genoa (135 I believe) and found it was brand new.  The PO never used it and it was clean, crisp and new.  I wish it was a 150 or 155, but I guess I shouldn't complain.

It is really nice to be able to walk around on the foredeck and feel stable.  The 19 is quite stiff and really resists any heeling.  The Admiral was a big fan of that characteristic.

Getting the boat back on the trailer was really easy even with the missing keel guide.

Overall we are glad we moved up from the 16.  The extra room in the cabin is great, it sails flatter, and the extra cockpit width is really nice.  

What we didn't like;  Sucky keel guides, front stay was difficult to loosen and attach, and we miss the nice halyard cam cleats mounted on the mast of the 16.  

She's a keeper.


The Admiral working hard.


Yes, that is the wayward keel guide strapped to the port rail.

[Bob23]

Mike:
   Let me be the first to congratulate you! The boat looks great and seems very clean. I like the colored non-skid deck sections- my 1985  doesn't have that and I gave a minutes thought to painting them. Only a minutes thought. Then I realized that whatever is painted will need to be repainted. They remain as they were.
   Nice to see your Admiral at the helm. Mine just sits in her Pentagon giving orders.
   A few notes: I like the regular cleats on the mast base. No moving parts, nothing to break and more positive, in my opinion. But I always tend to lean toward the more simple, being a simpleton. Hey- what's with the grey teak? Mike, Mike- you gotta get sandin', man!
   I had the same experience when I sailed a 19- I appreciated the fact that they sail flatter than the 16's or 23's. Different designer, flatter bottom. I contemplated buying PeterG's 19 "Beagle" last summer but decided to keep the 23 and the Beagle is off to a new owner.
  Glad the rudder worked out great. Mine will be tried out today. I put more pieces of blue tape on for extra strength.
Best to you and Brenda in this new adventure!
Bob23

[brackish]

Congrats on the maiden voyage!  Boat looks great.

With regard to the halyard cleats, couple of stand up blocks, a double deck organizer, and a double rope clutch and you have them right where you sit. A couple of hundred bucks but she's worth it.  Not really necessary unless you do a lot of single handling.

Noticed the sheet fairleads forward on the coaming.  Is that typical on a 19?

[Greene]

Noticed the sheet fairleads forward on the coaming.  Is that typical on a 19?

The fairleads do seem pretty far forward, but they look to be the originals.  The genoa tracks are nice and long which gives us plenty of adjustment.  We ran the sheets outside of everything and it seemed to work well.  There has been some discussion on this site about running them inside the shrouds vs. outside.  We'll still be experimenting on that when we have more wind to work with and try pinching to the wind more.  



Qoute from Bob23: Hey- what's with the grey teak? Mike, Mike- you gotta get sandin', man!

Bob, my daughter just graduated in Interior Design last week and she told me that Grey is THE in color for teak this year.  I'm just a fashionable guy who keeps up with all the new trends.   Bob, the Admiral probably had the tiller for 5 of the 7 hours we were on the water.  I really enjoy sitting back watching the sights (including the Admiral) and relaxing while she does all the work. 

[Bob23]

   I knew it! I'm am so out of fashion with my varnished teak...wonder if I could paint it grey to be in with the in-crowd of teak?
   The Admiral sailed for 5 hours? Does she have any sisters?
Bob23   

[Greene]

Bob, Bob, Bob.  "Paint it grey.."  You really are out of the loop.  It's natural grey weathering or nothing.  I had to shop all over the country to find a 19 with just the right shade of grey weathered teak.  And you think you can just upgrade by painting the teak?  I'll bet you dye your hair too!

Mike

[Bob23]

You are right, what was I thinking? There is no shortcut. To get the real look, I'll just have to sand all that horrible varnish off and let the teak go au natural. No wonder I haven't made an impression with the ladies.
But the hair is real gray...self-employed grey is the actual color. Fortunately, I've got a lot of gray hair!
Bob23..the aged

[Greene]

Don't bother putting sanding all your varnish off onto your to do list Bob.  By the time you are done procrastinating the varnished look will be back in style anyway.

I tried the self-employed route for 4 years myself.  My hair simply bypassed the gray stage and just went away.  

You may still have a full head of hair, but I've got some really nice baseball hats.  

Mike

[Bob23]

There is only one kind of true baseball hat- Mets!
Hahahahaha!!
You didnt' stay self-employed long enough. For the first 5 years we pull our hair out. Next, our brains start coming out in the form of grey hair. It's really amazing.

Bob23...the Varnisher

[Greene]

Hey Newt - Can I get censored for hijacking my own topic?

[Salty19]

Mike-

Congrats on the first new sail!

The admiral and I too have found the 19 to be more akin to our liking.   The extra room to stretch out, the added feeling of security with less heal and more stability overall and a more comfortable deck are all big pluses.

I'll take a pic of the standup blocks, lead blocks and cleats that Brackish mentioned.  They were standard on the XL.    No complaints.

Will go on the 5th sail tonight if the wind cooperates.  I went to the boat yesterday to do a few odds and ends but no wind to speak of for sailing.   

Had an interesting experience with my dock neighbors that you guys won't believe!  I was up on deck at the bow fitting the anchor and the neighbor came back into their slip after apparently drinking twelve bottles of scotch.   Looking over my shoulder from the bow, the woman is IN THE WATER swimming holding onto the bow dock line!!!   Mr. captain can't steer the pontoon for crap and is all sideways and mixed up..almost as if he didn't know which way to steer the boat to go right/left!  I offered to help, not so concerned for the two Darwin's but more the lack of contact with Island Time.  So I run over there and the distinguished captain is coming in sideways and headed into the dock. He's looking kinda like "Duh...what do I do..hiccup??" Instead of turning to miss the slip I had to grab his boat and guide into the dock.  Meanwhile his admiral is still in the water. God knows what for. 

So I guide the boat in, tie up the bow line (a very old, chafed and worn out line), el capitano steps off, ignores the rear dock line and starts talking to his wife.  No care or concern for the rear dock line until I pipe up "Hey, grab the dock line, you're going to hit my boat".  So he tied it up without so much of a thanks or really any acknowledgement whatsoever!    They appeared about 50 years old which surprised me that Darwin had not taken them earlier.

Let's just say the marina folks will be getting a call from me today to see about moving slips away from these a$$hats!

[Greene]

Thanks Salty.  The Admiral always stood down in the cabin with the sliding hatch wide open to easily reach the halyards on the 16.  The 19 is a little too long for her to reach the halyards and mast cleats on the 19, so I'll definitely take a look at your pic's and get some parts on order.  One other item I didn't mention on the new 19 is rigging the mainsheet.  There isn't any kind of eyelet near the swiveling mainsheet cam to tie the end off on.  I ended up attaching it to the port side stern cleat.  This works, but I would think an attachment point (similar to the setup on the 16) would be better.  

Here is a pic of the 16 that shows the small stainless steel eyelet just to the starboard of the mainsheet swivel.


I'd laugh at your intoxicated dockmate, but my first attempt at docking the 19 wasn't exactly textbook either.  Although I was just drinking water and Diet Pepsi all day, I had to take a couple of shots at the dock.  The motor hangs so far down below the stern that the control stick is bent almost at 90 degrees which makes it really tough to operate the throttle and steering.  I may have to investigate adding a middle setting on the motor mount which would keep the prop in the water and allow the controls to clear the transom better.  The mount I had on the 16 had multiple setting where the new one only has up and down positions.  I think I could mill out a couple of slots in the motor bracket arms which would solve that issue.

Best wishes,
Mike and Brenda

[Billy]

Greene,
I can't really tell from your picture, but on the 19s you should be able to attach the end of the main sheet to the same block that you adjust for the main. There may be a pin in the block that you can pull out and run a spliced end through, or you could just use a bowline.
Here is the block that was on my boat when she found me


Here is the block I have on there now,


I got these blocks from Gerry at Hutchins.

[Bob23]

MG:
   Are those factory brake lights on your 19 or did you go aftermarket?
Bob23

[Greene]

Billy;
I don't believe there was any kind of pin to attach to.  I'll take a look when I get home tonight.

Bob;
On the CP16:  The LED taillight and crutch assembly was from a previous owner of the CP16.  It was easy to put on/off the boat and functioned as a decent mast crutch.  If I would have kept the 16 I would have copied it and made it out of some more attractive wood and added carpet to the foot (where it rests on the lazarette).

On the CP19:  I assume they are aftermarket because they are mounted on the PVC pipe guides on the trailer and looked about as cheap as they come.  I have already removed the 4" square lights and ordered a pair of nice LED lights which are fitted to a 2 3/8" OD PVC pipe sections which mount right on the top of my guides posts.  The 4" square ones stuck out too far and the light sockets were in poor condition.  The new ones will be several inches higher than the 4" square ones which will make them easier to see from behind the boat.  I'm not a big fan of mid-trailer tail lights because tailgaters probably can't see them.  My plan is to add a middle brake light which mounts to the transom so even the tailgaters can see me stopping.