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First Sail on 88 CP19/II

Started by Greene, May 22, 2010, 11:13:38 PM

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Salty19

Well, shoot, Greene I went sailing last night but forgot to take the camera.  Will get these for you soon.

My mainsheet also does not have a tang to connect to at the stern but rather is spliced to the becket on the port side block just above the cam cleat.  I sent this part off the West Marine to splice in a new sheet last month-nice and clean.
A knot should do for now though.
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Salty19

Added some more pics to look at mainsheet and halyard stuff on photobucket fer ya, Mike.
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Greene

#17
Thanks Salty.  Our setup is similar to yours, so the next time we go out we'll rig it the same way. 
We need to replace the mainsheet as it is too thick to feed smoothly.  I did buy a nice length of BZZZ line for the 16 mainsheet (which I never installed), so if it is long enough I can use that.  If if is too short I'll take it to the CLR and donate it as a door or race prize for the 16'ers. 

Nice pics of a very pretty boat.  I see you have a neat little speaker setup for your IPOD.  Great minds (well at least mediocre) think alike.  Since I didn't want to cut into the 19 to install a regular stereo, I bought a very similar Altec-Lansing radio with IPOD dock.   I'm amazed at the sound that comes out of the little devil.  It has a built in Lith-Ion battery so we can use it in the cabin or cockpit without a bunch of wires to deal with.  We like some background music to listen to as we waste the day away.

The trailer lights came in today and my AGM 12v battery is "supposed" to be ready for pick up tomorrow.  If all goes right we'll get at least one day of sailing in this weekend.  I'm actually hoping to throw out the hook and see how over-nighting goes.

Have a great weekend.

Mike and Brenda
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Salty19

Cool...have fun sailing this weekend! Charge that battery when you get it.

That mainsheet is spliced. I don't beleive Bzzz line is spliceable. Not that I could do it if it was spliceable. But you'll love how it feels if it fits. 7mm size is for the CP16, 8mm for the CP19.

Will it fit as jib or genoa sheets? Then make or have made a nice splice on the becket? Seems much cleaner to me.

The 'lil "InMotion" unit there in the pics cranks for such a small thing too.. Had for 4 years now and going strong.
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

newt

(Late entry) Mike keep it going- great thread!

Greene

#20
A Day of Firsts.

We had a wonderful weekend of sailing.  We dropped the 19 in on Lake Mendota (Madison, WI) and sailed in good winds of 12-13 mph with really choppy confused waves.  Lake Mendota is known for creating bigger waves than the wind can account for and these were mixed in with the wakes of all the big power boats.  It made for some fun and interesting sailing.  We sailed for 5 hours in 87 degree temps with bright hot sunshine beating down.  Brenda wanted to take a break (Ok, she said stop now!) so even though we were out in the sloppy waves we dropped the anchor in 20' of water and rested.  I still can't believe she could sleep in the cabin with all the odd rocking an bucking the boat was doing.  It was a really good test of the ground tackle for that nights anchoring.

We had some power boater friends call and ask if they could motor out to meet us and check out our new sailboat.  They tied their boat behind ours and brought over all kinds of snacks for us to munch on. The wind cooperated and calmed way down which smoothed the lake out nicely for a raft up.


They stayed and chatted until 9pm when there were some fireworks scheduled in Madison.  We enjoyed some good fireworks and conversation.

We have never sailed at night, so this was going to be another first for us.  The wind cooperated beautifully with a perfectly steady 9 mph wind on a beam reach.  We sailed along silently 3 miles to the area we planned on anchoring for the night.  There was enough light to see easily as we sailed along so quietly that we found ourselves whispering at times.  We couldn't have had a more perfect first night sail.




We sailed up to within 200 yards of the shoreline and dropped the bow mounted anchor with plenty of scope.  I warned Brenda that we would be facing the other way in the morning because the winds were expected to pick up and turn 180 degrees from southerly to northerly.  I didn't want her to wake up and look out the porthole and not see the shore that was there last night.  We were both expecting to get some reading done after we anchored, but it was already 11:30pm which is late for us.  We closed the cabin up and enjoyed the fresh breeze coming through the portholes.  I only got up a couple of times to check the anchor.  We slept pretty well for our first time anchoring out, but it still takes some time to identify all the little boat noises first.



We got up around 8:30am and had some breakfast before deciding that with the rain clouds closing in it would be a good time to load her up for the day.  This was the second time that we have motored up to the dock and it went much better than the first time.  I left the rudder in the down position this time and it gave me much better control at slow speeds.  



A day of firsts that we hope will be just the beginning.

Mike and Brenda
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Bob23

Wonderful story and photos, Mike and Brenda:
Thanks for sharing.
Bob23

Greene

Thanks Bob.  It sounds like you are on the water again.  Summer has arrived!

Another couple pics.




Mike and Brenda
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Bob23

I am, Mike.
   Got out the other night for a great sunset sail. The new rudder seems to enable me to point higher than before. I sail out of and into a cove where lots of people show up to see the sunset over the Manahawkin Bay. So I'm always kinds nervous sailing up to the mooring without motor assist. In the past, I've put on quite a comedy show for the audience! This time, however, it was flawless. It almost seemed as if I knew what I was doing!
   I promise before you and I get too old to see, I will post photos on the site. Thanks for the great coverage of your sailing adventures. Great encouragement!
Bob23

Greene

Salty,
I tried rigging the mainsheet the way your pictures showed, but we still had an issue with the line binding up.  I took a couple of pictures with my cell phone (sorry about the awful quality) so you can see why I have an issue.  I wonder if the cam support bracket on my set up is just bent up a few degrees to cause the binding between the cam cleat and the sheave?  Maybe I just need to bend the bracket back down a little to get some clearance between them.   I just looped the line through the becket and tied it in a knot so that is why there are two lines coming up from it.  Now I have to learn how to splice line -  I'll have to have someone "commence to splainin"  how to do that.





Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Salty19

#25
Looks like you and Brenda are really enjoying the new boat!    
Thanks for the pictures, you're boat looks real good!

I'm thinking you have a few issues here to look at for your mainsheet.

-Line diameter.  Use 8mm or 5/16" line.   (8mm is slightly less than 5/16)

-Splice.  Tie that knot close to the becket and secure the loose end with thread to the sheet.  Or have it spliced/do it yourself. You want nothing loose there to obstruct things

-Line routing.  I believe off the becket it will go up to the foreward block on the boom, down to starboard side block, on top of block and coming out the bottom, up to the aft block on the double then back down to the port lock and camcleat.At least that's what I recall at the moment. May need to experiment here.

Edit..wrongo.  Line goes up from becket to aft block on double/boom, down under starboard block, up to foreward boom block, then down to port block/cam.

-mainsheet Cam cleat angle. I can't tell if it's too high or too low.  But don't bend it, instead take off the block and unscrew the center screw holding the cam cleat arm.  The arm will fit into different notches for the right height. Then replace screw and block, test.  Mine looks fairly to be at a high angle.


Speaking of lines, my goal for lines this year is to have spliced as many lines as possible.  Which should mean all of them except jib sheets.

Working now on a aft led single line jiffy reefing and 4:1 outhaul system.   West Marine will be getting some more splicing business (they did a really good job and it was not expensive).
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Greene

Salty,

I agree completely on the issue of line diameter on the mainsheet.  It came with that fat ol' sheet and I know it needs to be replaced.  It is funny that when I bought our 16 a couple years ago it had the same big fat line for a mainsheet.  I wonder why people put them in as mainsheets.  They are heavy enough to be an emergency tow rope.

I'll pop the cam off and see if there is any adjustment for the angle.  It does look to me like it was bent up previously.

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com