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Com-Pac Model Specific Discussions => CP-16's => Topic started by: casey on November 14, 2010, 09:54:44 PM

Title: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: casey on November 14, 2010, 09:54:44 PM
Howdy all,

New to the group and a brand new cp-16 owner (as of yesterday).  I really appreciate the information to be had on this board.  After having a heck of a time while practicing rigging her yesterday, I built a mast crutch based on suggestions from topics I've read here. Haven't tried it yet, but I know it's going to be a big help.  Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and thank all the salty cp sailors for sharing their experience for the benefit of the rest of us.


Casey
1998 Com-Pac 16CB
Titusville, FL

Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: Bob23 on November 15, 2010, 03:17:15 AM
Hey there, Casey:
   Welcome to the site! You know, all us northerners get a bit jealous of all you southern sailors who are still putting on sunblock while we are putting on boat covers. Well, not quite true, I'm still sailing for a few weeks but you guys, well, more power to ya! Here's to many wonderful sails!
   We look forward to hearing of your adventures and photos of your ship. I understand the 16 center boarders are kinda rare.
   Again, Welcome!
Bob23 in NJ
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: brackish on November 15, 2010, 09:51:20 AM
Welcome Casey,

When Bob23 sends you your initiation fee bill for $5K, just ignore it.  He tries hard but is best ignored in matters such as these.:)
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: rsahlender on November 15, 2010, 10:43:47 AM
Welcome Casey. It is good that you are able to practice rigging. Even though the lake here closed a month early this year and I didn't get to take my "new" CP16 out for a few practice runs I thought I would at least have been able to practice rigging on the hard a few times by now but alas she is still in the boat yard having some work done. Maybe in December... and yes lots of good information here in this forum as well as an experienced and friendly bunch. What are you using for a motor? Mine came with a 2hp Honda which is so light I can almost carry it with one hand. If it runs as well on the lake as it does in a can in my driveway I'll be in good shape when I get out in the spring. The only thing I am unsure about is the little Honda has a centrifugal clutch so no forward, neutral, reverse... the clutch works great in the can so no worries there, I am just unsure about getting used to swinging it around 180 degrees to move in reverse and back again as needed. Enjoy your new CP16.

Rich in PA
1988 16/3 #2608
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: mrb on November 15, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
Ahoy Casey, Welcome aboard.

RichS,  The Honda will do you fine and the clutch is nice once you use it a couple times.  Be sure to idle down before spinning motor into reverse.  I have a Tohatsu that has a forward and neutral and has to be spun around for reverse.   No problem.

Many good sails to both of you
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: GlennB724 on November 16, 2010, 09:29:49 AM
I've had a 2.5 Tohatsu on my CP16 since I got it.  I don't even have neutral.  For years, I cursed myself for cheaping out and not getting the 3.5 with gear shift, and the old adage of "quality is remembered long after price is forgotten" rang in my head every time I backed out of my slip at dizzying speeds even at idle.

This past spring the motor was a little difficult to start, and I realized I had left fuel in it over the winter without stabilizer.  So, I pulled the carb. and did a thorough cleaning.  When reinstalling it on the motor and adjusting the mixture and idle, I discovered the idle was factory set much higher than needed.  I adjusted it down, just above stalling, and now it gently pulls the boat out, (and approaches the dock), at a much more manageable speed.  (When docking before, I had to cut the motor and drift in the last 30 or 40 yards... sometimes tricky with a wind blowing.)

I have NO idea why the thought never crossed my mind before!
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: ALEXANDER on November 17, 2010, 06:16:31 PM
Hello, I'm a newbie...sort of...
I've been following this site for about two years ....all the while looking for a CP16.  Well I just found one and now feel like a real member of this group.   Over these two yearsI have learned so much from reading all the posts from the sailors on this site.  You all sound like real pros.
I currently live in North Carolina, though I winter part of the time in Titusville, florida, and hope to sail in the upper section of the Indian River Lagoon.   That's where my new (to me) 1984 cp16 is located. 
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: casey on November 17, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
Alexander,
Wow, two new cp16 sailors in Titusville in the same week.  Maybe we should get together to compare notes.  Where are you putting in?
Casey
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: payperboy on November 18, 2010, 10:35:10 AM
Welcome both Casey and Alexander. As you probably already know this is the best compac forum on the net.  Tons of info and plenty of fine sailors to help you with any issues you have with your new vessel.
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: Bob23 on November 18, 2010, 05:14:51 PM
Casey and Alex:
   There is a price for knowledge and as Brack noted, I am the collector of membership fees for the site. Please send me $5k each or take advantage of a today only special- 2 memberships for $7.5k. such a deal. Normally I accept cash only but I'll consider a partial payment of beer, rum, etc. If you help me wax and bottom paint my 23, I'll waive all fees!!! Man, what a deal!!!
Bob23
Good to have you both aboard.
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: doctormikek on November 19, 2010, 07:24:08 PM
Casey- I just rigged my cp16 halyards and a jib downhaul through cam cleats to the cockpit. It dawned on me that the jib downhaul could be used to assist in raising and lowering the mast. It works great! Just attach it to the forestay. The cam cleat holds the mast in place while you attach the forestay to the bow or while climbing down from the cabin to the cockpit, lowering the mast. This is really saving my back and my nerves. Doc.
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: ALEXANDER on November 19, 2010, 07:40:18 PM
Great idea Doc!
Got any ideas for a mainsail downhaul?  In comparison to the  speed of the jib downhaul, the maindsail seems to take a long and difficult pull to get down. Perhapes the ans. is some where else on this site.
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: newt on November 20, 2010, 02:51:15 PM
Alex, I suspect the answer you are looking for may be in making the mainsail guides smooth and easy raise and lower. If the main has been in storage for a while, the guides can get dinged up or rusty.  Also, do you move your mainsail when you are facing directly into the wind/ (or better yet, no wind at all?)
Finally, are you just using the boltrope to raise the main? If you are, then you may get alot of resistance secondary to chafe. Put some guides in there. It makes it easier.
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: kickingbug1 on November 20, 2010, 03:37:57 PM
 3m makes a spray dry silicone lube that works great just spay in the mast groove before you raise it. worked for me when i had a boltrope main. i still use it with the guides on my new sail. auto parts stores have it.
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: ALEXANDER on November 20, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
I've got the boltype main so the 3m dry silicone lube sounds like the way to go.   thanks for the advice!
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: kickingbug1 on November 22, 2010, 10:34:54 AM
    another thing alex, make sure you ease your mainsheet when hoisting the main, if you dont it will bind the sail. fairwinds and a hearty welcome to new com-pacers
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: Greene on November 22, 2010, 10:40:06 PM
Quote from: kickingbug1 on November 22, 2010, 10:34:54 AM
   another thing alex, make sure you ease your mainsheet when hoisting the main, if you dont it will bind the sail. fairwinds and a hearty welcome to new com-pacers

The Kickster is right on this one.  While rigging our 19 for a sail this summer,  Admiral B heaved on the main halyard for all she was worth and couldn't get the main all the way to the top.  She was getting a bit frustrated until I realized that the mainsheet was cleated down tight.   Oooops!  Sorry dear.

(http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/Door%20County/Carlyle%20Lake%20Rendezvous%202010/CLR2010007.jpg)

Mike
Title: Re: yet another new cp-16 owner
Post by: ALEXANDER on December 25, 2010, 06:48:21 PM
Hi casey,
I am also new,  Just bought a cp16 1983 and have it up on the hard in Titusville,
Fl.  I live in N.C. but I will be down in florida the last two weeks of Jan. to do some work on her.  I don't think I'll put her in the water at that time.  I"ll return to Fl. in April and hope to get her in the water at that time.  Let me know if you would like to sail together or just compare notes on these great little boatsHappy Holidays.
Alex