CP 19/2

[K3v1n]

Well she's out of the water and on her shiny new trailer.


Here she is sitting amongst the big boys waiting to get lifted on the trailer.


I'm putting my list together of the things I need to do this fall/winter. I'll use this thread to keep you guys and gals up to date. Should be fun but first I have to work on the 'honey do list', once that's shortened up a bit I'll get to my baby.

-Kevin

[K3v1n]

Went to Annapolis for the boat show friday and got soaked, by the rain that is. Here is a pic of me at the helm of a Shannon 43, a very nice vessel to say the least.

Said hello to Rich Hutchins and got a hands on look at the Legacy, a wet hand that is. They also had a couple cat boats with them. The Legacy already had a SOLD sign on her.

Did have a great bowl of vegetable crab soup...very spicy!





-Kevin

[Ralph Erickson]

Ah, the end of the season for us northerners.  Hate to think of it - the season flew by so fast.  We're able to keep our boats in the water at the Marina at Lake Nockamixon until the end of November, but not sure I'll keep her in that long.  Not much time to sail these days, as we're in the process of moving to a new home.  But I'll keep her in at least till the end of October, and at least get in a couple more sailing days.  Then, as you note, Kevin, the winter boat projects begin.  For me, that's pure pleasure! 

Ralph
CP16 #2245
"Patricia Lee"

[B.Hart]

This is the begining of the season for me here in florida. The summer has been hot with no wind. Ihave a overnight trip planed for next week.

[K3v1n]

Enjoy your Florida sailing, go a few times for me!
We had frost on the boat this morning, fall is finally here.

-Kevin

[K3v1n]

Well looks like I have some scraping in my future. Twenty years of bottom paint caked up... I think I'm going to want to take it off.



I might just wait until later in the winter to do this, unless I get a sudden urge for shoulder and back pain.


-Kevin

[vigsail]

Kevin,
The boat looks very nice.  I'm the guy in Tuckerton whose boat you saw this summer.  You really did get a great deal -- I'm happy for you.  Actually managed to get my trailer fixed for less than $200 so I'm glad about that.  Haulin' the boat this weekend -- maybe one last sail. 
Anyway, glad you got the boat and the trailer looks great also.  Maybe I'll see you out there next season.
Good luck.
Mike

[spaul]

Kevin,
I've found each Fall when I power wash the gunk off of my boat bottom that if I'm not careful the bottom paint comes off too. We use a 3500 psi gas powered pressure washer that sure cleans up the boat but we have to be very careful. I suggest you might try blowing off that bottom paint with something like this. Might save you a lot of ben-gay application to those shoulders. If you do, report back please.

Steve Paul
Nashville, IN

[Pat McL]

Hi Kevin,
   "Teddy B" is finally ready to launch and looks great! The season is just getting about right here in FL. Should be able to give a report in about a week --- just waiting for a 2-meter masthead antenna (decided to throw in a marine band radio). Nice part is that the marine VHF band is close enough to the 2-meter ham bands, that I can get double duty from the antenna. (Any of youse guys who are hams, I usually have the Maritime net up on HF in my shop during the work-day (14.300) --- give a call ---kd4yqg--.

Since you have had a bit of time in both the 16 and the 19, how do their sailing characteristics compare? How much more difficult is the trailering and launching of the 19? I believe Marcus has sailed both as well, and if he catches this question, I would be interested in his opinion as well.
---Pat--

[mgoller]

Hey Pat,
The 19 and 16 are pretty similar when you're in the cockpit, but that's it.  Take a wine glass and float it in a big pan of water.  Bob it around and push it.  Now do the same with a champagne glass.  What do you notice?
I seriously have to work at it to get my 19 to heel ten degrees.  It looks very cool to heel a sail boat way over.  The 16 tends to heel at the least bit of wind.  I don't like the 16 in gusty wind.  It does what it is supposed to but isn't very relaxing.  The 19 handles gusts better.  It really resists heeling with that flatter bottom.  When the wind hits the 19 it feels like it rises.  When wind hits the 16 it rises, heels and tries to round up.
The 16 is smoother cutting through chop.  But on the larger 19 the mass of the boat tends to push through these bumps and feels about the same as the 16.
The 19 points better by about 5 degrees.  The 19 has a finer entry.  Right at the water line the bow is narrower, whereas the 16 is like a football and designed to retain its entry with a lot of heeling.
Both boats do what they do well.  The reason I like the 19 better is that when I take out non-sailing passengers they don't feel uneasy.  The heeling in the 16 would unsettle my novice passengers.  They thought we would tip over.  And the room downstairs in the 19 is more spacious with the hull going straight down to the waterline.
The 19's sail plan is proportionately bigger and more balanced as is the keel.
The better boat?  All depends on your purposes and personal taste.  The cockpit is almost the same, with the 19 having two big lockers for stowage.
Trailering, once you get going you wont notice either back there.  The 19 will require a more powerful vehicle and don't use overdrive.
Launching?  Big difference.  You need a good ramp and about four feet of water 15 feet out to launch the 19, whereas you can practically throw the 16 into a shallow pond.
The 19 is of course a little faster than the 16 and points better.  But come season end the 16 seems to tuck away out of site while the 19 is a monster on its trailer and doesn't hide.
Walking around the 19 on deck is a breeze because the boat doesn't tip with every step.  The grab points around the deck are just right.
But all in all the 16 is a sweet little yacht.  Easy to rig, launch and sail.  Heeling her way over in a steady wind, smoothly cutting over chop, being able to pull up to a beach, hop out and play is all the wonder of the 16.

[K3v1n]

Marcus is pretty much dead on with his discription there.
My wife doesn't like the heeling so the 19 makes her feel more comfortable, of course I loved getting the 16 way over and letting her rip. I think I might miss that, I kinda like laying a boat over a bit.

Here was a little video I took in case you missed it.

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k252/Gypsy_Soul/th_100_2098.jpg


-Kevin

[pelican]

I had a 16 and 19.  I trailer sail...I recently sold my 16. I miss the ease of launching the 16. I can't launch the 19 at just any ramp.  I sailed the 16 more often because of the ease of set up. I would set the 16 up to go out for a couple hours sailing. I don't like to set the 19 up unless I can make a whole day of it. 

That being said, The 19 is much more comfortable once underway. The 19 is more comfortable in the rough stuff. The extra room is nice when sleeping aboard.

I sailed my 16 on some rough, white cap, cold front days on the ICW and the boat handles it well once you get a good feel for it.

Good sailing

[K3v1n]

Here are some pictures my brother took of us sailing about.







I miss the summer already!

-Kevin

[K3v1n]

So, what is one to do with this?



I'd like to get the Ida rudder but first I have to be able to get the old one off and make needed repairs.

-Kevin

[Craig Weis]

Kevin,
Looks as if a lot of heat from a hand held butane [not propane] torch, the kind that comes from an Ace Hardware with a screw-on canister will loosen up that busted threaded bolt festooned into the aluminum rudder assembly above the rudder blade. Or just drill the darn thing out. Is anything in the picture welded? I can't tell.

So my question is what happened to the threaded brass 'hand bar' used to deform and pinch-tighten the aluminum blade, and either hold it up, with a line, or hold it down, unless kipped up in a grounding. Salt water do the bolt in? Was the bolt a stainless steel bolt? I'll bet the next one is. I always carry a spare brass handle on my boat in case I drop it into the water. I suppose someone hammered on it to get it tight or loose and broke it off. Brass is soft and bronze is expensive! But tougher.

Once hot squirt on some 'RUST BUSTER' and let her steam. Do it again, more steam. You should be able to grab the 'stump' of a broken nut with the 'Vice Grips' and begin to turn the son-of-a-gun out.
Use care not to round out the other side of the aluminum rudder assembly that captures the hex bolt head.

Anyway there are three different types of metal here and the heat will make these different metal expand at different rates assuring that the 'RUST BUSTER' seeps into the spaces, displacing the corrosion. Give it a couple of day's soak if you have to. You'll get it.
You should see some of the model 'A' stuff that the guys in the club take apart. It looks solid!!! skip.