No Mas has new home.

[Bob23]

Brack is right! Oh dear, am I detecting a trend here? On your 23, don't panic when you're hit with a gust, she'll round up but it's a good reminder to keep your hand on the tiller!
Bob23

[Mas]

Agree with Bob (did I actually type that?) on the early reef.  During the Winter and Spring I usually just leave it in and only shake it out if conditions warrant.  Your Legacy would have sailed a little flatter than the older hull form of the 23, don't let those quick rolls in gusts alarm you it fetches up tight well before you can put the lee rail awash.  High ultimate stability they call it, but low initial stability.

Clark Mills designed first the CP16 then the 23 complete with all of their wonderful compound curves. They both, as a result, sail much the same, though clearly any smaller craft will teach you the error of your ways before a larger version of the same craft. In my White Water paddling days the most responsive boats had less initial stability but solid secondary stability. You kept your paddle in the water or paid the price! Clark Mills' design require the same attention with a hand on the tiller. The CP19 had a different hull design by Robert Johnson with a flatter bottom thus greater initial stability but less secondary. Our WIB Crealock designed Pacific Seacraft has much the same stability curve as the Clark Mills designs while an Island Packet, also a Robert Johnson design, has similar characteristics as the CP19. Many like the static stability of the flatter bottoms while many prefer the dynamic stability of the Crealock or Mills designs. All great boats just different!

You will find that No Mas will behave a little different from other 23's just because the weight hanging off of the stern with an outboard is gone and now more centered and low with her diesel. also with her custom fuel tank and system you will be able to motor for days though her ridiculously low diesel hours speak to her sailing not motoring characteristics. It was my hope that she could complete her North American circumnavigation. So glad you may achieve that!. Now the downside....as all of us previous owners can attest,..her unique features highlight the similar features of  a larger craft with such! jus sayn! Congrats again Chelle, but you have been warned!?

[Ken J]

Can you expand on the downside - I?m not understanding - I have a 23 and it does feel like my16 on steroids 😝😝😝😝😝😝😝

[Mas]

Can you expand on the downside - I?m not understanding - I have a 23 and it does feel like my16 on steroids ?

The downside is getting an even larger boat! All of the previous owners of No Mas sold her to get an even larger boat! A perfect stepping stone to a cruising vessel.

[Ken J]

Ah ok got it - sorry a bit slow on the take 😂 in my lake it?s about the largest I can handle in mast up storage - if I did in water storage I would be looking for a larger boat myself - slips have a 2-3 waiting list where I am and are really expensive

[Bob23]

I've always thought that the 23 is a big boat that thinks it's small... or a small boat that thinks it's big! A boat with a sort of identity crisis!
Very stout, rigged very strong for it's size and super versatile. Maybe I'm the oddball here but I've no desire to go bigger; if anything, I'd downsize to a simpler boat that I can camp cruise it. But that's just me!

Chelle: You will love your 23! For standing headroom, just step out into the roomy cockpit! That's what I do. Sleeping aboard there is tons of room down below but I prefer open air sleeping in the cockpit to being crammed up in the cabin.

Cheers!
Bob23

[Seachelle]

Thank you, everyone, for sharing your feedback and support! As my Legacy is very scaled-down, comparatively speaking, to No Mas!, I am feeling anxious about learning her various systems. I've never had a diesel engine, though I remember the one we had aboard our Shipman Accent 26 decades ago. I remember, on occasion, my father having to hand-crank the engine to get it to start. He reminded me, however, that this had to do with the electrical system failing to connect in order to keep the battery charged to turn the engine over. At least I think that is what he told me. :-D Anyhow, I follow a few YouTuber sailors -- WindHippie, Sam Holmes, and Wilderness of Waves -- it seems one of them is always having to finagle something or other with the engine. They strike me (the Diesel engines) as temperamental, but then again I read all day long about how reliable they are, too. Guess I need to just make sure that I have Nigel Calder's book onboard! We don't have a marine/diesel technicial at our marina, so that makes me a bit jumpy in the event something needs tending to which surpasses my skill level. Of course, I do remind myself that I have a sailboat, so engine not necessary (Didn't the Pardeys sail without one on their circumnavigations?), but I get a bit edgy worrying about the possibility of not having engine power in a pickle.

Truth be told, in full disclosure, I was really looking for just a basic Com-Pac 23 model for daysailing on an inland lake -- one with limited thru-hulls, e.g., for cockpit scuppers like on my Legacy, one with an outboard, one with no galley. Now I've got myself a boat suitable for coastal cruising! I feel like I'm in over my head, but I tell myself that this is a boat that I can grow into.

And to top it off, in a case of absolutely bizarre timing, two days AFTER I made the deposit on No Mas!, a Com-Pac 23 meeting all my criterial came up for sale TWENTY minutes from where I live! This is unheard of -- I have never seen a Com-Pac for sale in my state, and they're practically zil-cho of them for sale in the Midwest, and then -- lo and behold -- here is a Com-Pac 23 practically down the road from my house!

Well, of course I had to go look at the boat, despite having made the deposit on No Mas!; this, as I wanted to see a Com-Pac 23 up close and personal as I'd never seen one in person before until that time. The boat was way scaled-down from No Mas!, older (from 1983), but man, she was in great shape and I could have literally hooked her up to my truck and driven her home that day...

...but I didn't! What I did learn, most importantly, seeing that boat near me is that the Com-Pac 23 is the right boat for me! Being there, in person, to see one totally solidified that I made the right choice!

So, there will be a great learning curve for me with No Mas!, and as many of you have noted, she is a vessel that has 'big boat' features, so I am looking at this, again, as an opportunity to spread my wings and expand my horizons as a sailor, step outside of my comfort zone, and along the journey -- don't take myself too seriously and have fun as I stumble my way around learning all I can aboard No Mas! -- I am glad to hear that many of you have referred to her as a forgiving boat -- I am gonna be asking for a lot of forgiveness from her, I'm sure, as I make mistakes!

Thanks, again, everyone -- and btw, she is going to be arriving early next week -- and her prior owner made me a ton of little videos describing her systems, the engine, etc -- so I have great resources in that capacity as well!

Fair winds!