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Started by william suggs, September 08, 2015, 08:50:35 AM

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william suggs

i recently moved to Hayesville NC near Lake Chatuge. I would like help in launching and sailing my boat.

deisher6

Hey William:
If nobody closer wants to give you a hand....I have some experience(s) with C-16's and would be glad to get you started.  We are just about at opposite ends of the state though.  I live in New Bern.
regards charlie

william suggs

Charlie give me a call 352-359-4219

william suggs

Quote from: deisher6 on September 08, 2015, 10:49:37 AM
Hey William:
If nobody closer wants to give you a hand....I have some experience(s) with C-16's and would be glad to get you started.  We are just about at opposite ends of the state though.  I live in New Bern.
regards charlie

Charlie please give me a call 352-359-4219 thanks

deisher6

Drove out to visit Bill to talk, demonstrate at least one way to rig, launch, and recover a C-16.  Bill is fortunate to have the best looking '89 C-16 III that I have ever seen.  It has been well maintained and protected from the elements.  Upgraded with an IdaRudder foil.

I have rigged, launched and sailed 4 C-16s and no two of them were alike in minor ways especially the outhaul, downhaul, main and jib halyards cleating and turning blocks.  However the basics are the same for all of them.

The Pictures are not in sequence.


Bill in red shirt and John a very able crewman (USMC). The block on the boom was strange with a square pice of metal to keep it from rotating and fastened on by a pin with a slotted head (tedious).



Using jib halyard to help raise the mast.



Bill fussing with the cotter rings for the side stay clevis pins.

There was not much wind on the lake once we got the boat launched.  I was really puzzled on why Bill was having so much trouble steering.  Note the tiller angle in the next flick.  I had forgotten to lower the rudder. 

How embarrassing! 

I explained that it was a test but I am pretty sure that neither Bill or John, were buying that explanation.



Anyway it was a great trip, got to meet another CPYOA member, go sailin, and see new parts of NC. 

Have been fortunate to sail with or alongside about 10 CPYOA members...all great folks without exception.

Thanks Bill.

regards charlie

GeeW

A good day out for all parties I hope?...looks it from the images.
It is nice to have help  to dispel those first launch fears.

Gordon
'Applejack'
CP16/III

william suggs

What a great day Charlie and Beverly. Look forward to a trek to been where we will have some real wind. Great new  friends and compac owners too! Thanks again Charlie !!

Drescape24

Hello, great post and pics. I am also new to CP16 ownership. I also singlehanded my boat.
I hope this isn't a repetitive point. I have a line tied to my front stay at the turn buckle. I run the sheet around the anchor roller and back to the cockpit.  I walk the mast up to the front of the cockpit then I use the line attached to the from stay to pull the mast up the rest of the way. When the mast is raised I tie the line off the the cleat by the hatch, then I go forward to secure the stay. I also use it to lower the mast. It works great for me.
Any hints on launching and retrieving the boat single handed?

deisher6

#8
Hey Drescape24:
I prefer to use the jib halyard to help raise the mast, because like your arrangement you can cleat it off at the hatch once the mast is raised and I usually got off the boat and went to the bow to fasten the forestay.  It leaves the forestay free so you can mess with it without worrying about the mast if you let lose of the stay.  I can visualize that your method leaves the turnbuckle right where it needs to be to hook it up though.

I never did figure out how to recover the boat without getting wet, using fenders on the dock side, and two lines.  Launching was much easier and I could stay dry.  However much depends on the launching/recovery ramps.

Smooth sailing.

regards charlie

Duckie

I don't know if this is any help or not, but when I stand the mast up on my 16, I simply squat in front of it and grab it with both hands and sit back.  It doesn't take any strength at all.  I just have to be sure not to let go.  Once the mast is standing, I hold the fore stay and attach it to the anchor point, set the pin and lever it down.  Now, in all fairness I did drop the mast one time.  I won't do that again.  After that episode, I tied off the topping lift to the railing first, but now I just make sure to hold on to the fore stay. When I let the mast down I do the reverse with total control using my vast bulk instead of muscle. 

Al

deisher6

Hey Al:
A pretty cool concept, however if I tried anything like that, inspite of my best efforts to clear lines and stays before hand; one of the side stays would get hung up and there I would be with the mast 1/3 the way up wonderin' what to do next!

regards charlie

Duckie

Yah know, that almost never happens with my 16.  I have had it happen at which time I put it back down on the boom crutch, clear the lines and go again.  If you want to see a miracle happen, you should be around when I get the mast on my weekender to stand up on the very first try.   I have one jib halyard,two main sail halyards, two topping lift lines, four shrouds, a fore stay, and a partridge in a pair tree hanging around loose on that one.  And to top it all off the wooden mast weighs more than twice what the 16's does.  I spend way too much time making sure that all the lines will run free and it still rarely works.  She's pretty cute though. 

Al

Drescape24

Thanks Charlie, I will try that!  Have a great weekend