Need/want a BIGGER boat

[K3v1n]

Well having the CP16 has proven to me I do love sailing! I still have to get my wife out there though and those plans are in the works. But the 16 is too small for all three of us to spend the night so I am already thinking of upgrading. Quick! ...is there some shot I can take to stop this desire?!

My wife has given me permission to begin searching and researching so that is a good sign. I'm thinking of the CP19 but at the same time was saying to myself why not just go straight to the 23. I know my wife would love the room aboard. She has already told there is no way she will be sleeping in the berths on the 16.

So I guess I'm searching for any insight. Going with the 19 or 23 seems to be the question.  With the larger crafts, either one  will be kept at a slip so trailering is not much of a question. Also the draft of each is about the same, like three inches more on the 23.

Any help on this or just talk me out of it all together. I thought at first I would sail the 16 for at least a couple of seasons but now I thinking, heck! ...I'm not getting any younger ...why wait.

Thanks a bunch!
-Kevin

[Paul]

Yea, I have had bigger boat-itis in the past.  Kinda like a virus, you just gotta let it pass on it's own.    My experience anyway.  Kind of depends on your overall sailing goals.  What do you want out of it?  Day sailing with an occassional overnighter or consistant weekend excursions with several people?  How big is the body of water?  Etc.

I, too, enjoy sailfar.net.   Posted only a few times, but I keep reading consistantly.  There are some wonderful experiences folks have on boats bigger than our 16's.  But, I think if you answer the above questions for yourself, talk it over with the family,  meet the budget, and then give it a little time, you'll make the right decision.

I have a wife and two young daughters.  All enjoy sailing.  However, for us, we have decided to stick with the 16 for now.  We know the future holds a bigger boat, but we'll give it time.  Also, I think, time is on our side as used boats generally may cost a little less as they age.  That might work in your favor.  Used boats are always showing up in the classifieds.  I suppose you just need to decide when is it a good move for you and your family.

$0.02

[dusty]

you've started that ball rolling with your wife, get the bigger boat whilst the commander-in-chief is in the good mood, says i.

other than sheer convenience of the 16 feet, the only other adage i have heard is the "everything that happens on small boat happens on a big boat, only faster", which i boil and mash together, leaving the skin on, into, "after captaining a sixteen footer you'll appear to have psychic abilities on a twentythree."

[dusty]

kevin, my brother, in the words of the ancients, your stars are aligned. i believe the gods favor your decision.

three sets of seven, sir, numerologicly, the sign of favor are at their best for you.

[Paul]

LOL

Numbers don't lie.

[K3v1n]

Well there ya have it! The deal is sealed.
Question now is how quickly I can sell my 16.

-Kevin

[mgoller]

Kevin,
I sailed the 16 for one season and loved it so much I bought the CP19 out of the snow in january and had it ready for the spring.  The 19 is roomy enough for me being 220 and 6'2".  The truth is you use the cockpit and decks 97% and the cabin about 3% of the time.  For me the 16 is a little claustrophobic while the 19 seems like a motel.  I can daysail the 19 or cruise.  I can single hand or take passengers.  My opinion is that the 16 and 19 get a little full with more than two adults while sailing.  A third adult needs to be content just getting out of the way unless you're on a steady course for 30 minutes or so.  kids are fine and seem to move around.
This Saturday and Sunday I spinnaker sailed for hours.  The asymetric lets me cross the lake back and forth on a broad reach unti I'm ready to run back to port.  I get a lot of comments on the big blue and white balloon.
I remember, I couldn't get the CP19 out of my head at all.  Why wasn't I happy with the 16?  I loved it, it was what I wanted and yet I wanted a bigger version. 
I think it is that the 16 is really a daysailor with some cruiser features.  The 19 is actually fitted out as a cruiser while it is about as small as you can get and still be a cruiser.
The 23 was out of the question for where I live and never entered my mind.
The 19 trailers just as well as the 16 but wont go in a garage.
In fair winds I can beat all the other sailboats on our lake including the Catamarans because they don't know how to tack.
The CP19 was the cure for my boat desires.  I no longer long for another.

[dusty]

marcus, you should open a com-pac sales yard. you would make a killing.

[Ralph Erickson]

Kevin, I'm in the same prediciment that you are.  Have a 16, absolutely love her, but want something bigger for the same reasons you are considering, and having trouble deciding between a 19 and a 23.  I keep coming back to the 19, though, for several reasons.  First, although I keep my boat at a marina in southeast Pennsylvania, there are so many big bodies of water close by (the Chesapeake, the Atlantic Ocean........), I know I'll want to occasionally sail those waters, and it would be easier to trailer the 19 to those places a couple times a year as opposed to the 23.  Plus, the size vehicle needed to trailer the boat is a consideration for me. I trailer my 16 with a Toyota Sienna, but know I'll need something a bit bigger for the 19, and even bigger yet for the 23.  Since I'll only be trailering the boat several times a year, I won't want to have a gas guzzler the rest of the year just for that, what with the price of gas, cheapskate that I am.  So looks like I keep convincing myself to get the 19.  But man, just thinking of a 23.............(Ok, Ralph, back to earth!!!!) 
Good luck deciding!

Ralph
CP16 #2245
Patricia Lee

[ramble on]

I have a beautiful 1992 CP23/3 for sail. She has a new jib and all new interior upholstery. 8hp Mercury runs great.

Email me and I will send lots of pictures and info.

Jeff
Ramble On
Birmingham, Alabama

[ramble on]

Email/contact info omitted in prior post:

jcarlton@bhamnews.com
205 542 6212

[K3v1n]

Sorry...already bought a Seaward 22 here.

-Kevin

[Craig Weis]

So Kev, with a Seaward 22 ...does this mean you'll being leaving this Com-Pac site? Hope not. skip.

[Bob23]

Skip:
   My take is that even though Kev may be straying from the flock, someday he'll return as the prodigal son did. Plus, I think he's grandfathered in, eh? He's owned one more Compac than I have. And if you add up his 16 and 19, that equals 35! Profound, huh.
   Fair winds to you in your new adventure, Kev