How many CP16 owners in the Choctawhatchee Bay area??

[mayrel]

Greetings,
  We're the proud new owners' of a 83' CP16.  Currently we reside in northeastern AL, but will be moving to Ft Walton Beach FL.  We frequently go to this area and sail on the Choctawhatchee Bay.  We'd like to meet other CP16 owners' who sail and/or live in northwest FL(Pensacola, Ft Walton Beach and Panama City).  It seems there are many gatherings on inland lakes and the east coast, possibly there are enough CP owners' in this area?
  We're retired so our schedule is flexible.  We plan to head south late April/early May for our maiden voyage in our CP16.  Fair Winds...John and Joy

[carry-on]

John and Joy,
I keep my 16 at Bayou Grande Marina and day sail Pensacola Bay.
I have seen one or two other 16s on the bay.
Good fortune with your move to Fort Walton.

[mayrel]

Howdy Helmsmen, maybe we can get a few of these CP16 owners interested in a get together?  We plan to sail from Eglin AFB over to Mobile for a fun trip; of course we'll do others' when we finally get down there!  Our CP16 is the older original version.  Gerry Hutchins said if we rake the mast forward about 3 degrees it will improve performance; any comments?  John

[carry-on]

John,
There is a ComPac owner registry assembled by Tim Gardner, one of the site administrators. If you open the CPYOA forum index, the second topic from the top will lead you to the spreadsheet of registered owners. The count is about 250 boats once the multiple entries are subtracted. The number seems very low, considering most CP owners one encounters are familiar with the site. Maybe folks think someone will show up for Sunday dinner if they register.
You could probably import the spreadsheet to excel and sort by state or boat size. Just scanning the list, I see about five 16s between FT.Walton and Daphne, Al.

Mast rake: This departs from your original post and may be moved by an administrator, but since you asked about mast rake, here goes.
Please keep in mind that I am not an experienced sailor. I am a converted power boater. I sailed a few times in a Catalina 22, 25 and smaller stuff, but my 16 is the first sailboat I owned.
You can search the forum about forward mast rake and get a variety of opinions. A few years ago, I researched the topic because of the word "performance". When I did the math, if correctly, using 17 feet for mast length, came out the mast head would need to be about 10 inches forward of vertical to achieve 3 degrees forward rake. The rake should be measured when the boat is in the water. There is very little take up space in my fore stay and bob stay, to accomplish 3 degrees would require one or more of the following: shorter head stay, move the mast tabernacle aft, raise the base of the mast. Since I didn't have excess weather helm, I dropped the subject. Mast vertical, stays moderately taught, hull on its lines...sailing. 
The bow sprit and change in sail plan introduced about 1985 helped the balance/moved the center of effort forward. Owners of older boats with a 3/4 fractional rig sometimes comment about pointing and ability to get the bow through the wind when tacking. Maybe a larger jib would help. I think weight distribution and sail condition may be more important than the mast rake. If the max draft of the jib moves aft toward the mid point of the sail, performance will suffer. The dealer you bought from likes to say " nobody can sail well with poor sails".

By the way, one of the benefits of owning a ComPac ,new or old, is the help and advice available from Hutchins. If you look around the house for stuff that is twenty or thirty years old, what other manufacturer could you call and expect to talk with a principal of the company. It is great to own a ComPac.
Hope you will enjoy your 16.

   

[mayrel]

Thanks for the tip on finding other CP16 owners.  As to the "performance" issue of the MK I compared to the MK II's and III's, Gerry Hutchins suggested raking the mast forward, maybe 3 degrees is too much?  Essentially he said learning to sail the boat in light air is the key to performance in those conditions.  In heavier conditions, don't over power the boat.  I'll send you a private message to explain...John

[mayrel]

I just wanted to mention, we sold our CP16 and purchased a CP19.  Her name is "Liberty" and we have her at Ben's Lake marina on Eglin AFB.  I sold the CP 16 to a local fellow in Shalimar, so it's still in the area.  We are waiting on a flush kit for our new Tohatsu motor or we'd already have been sailing!  With that said, we are looking at making a trip to Pensacola for sure and possibly on to Mobile.  I haven't studied the charts yet, but I'm confident we can get a lot of sailing in the bays, some in the ICW, but likely a lot of motoring.  We're retired so scheduling a time to go is more about the weather than anything else.  If there are other's interested in making this trip(at least to Pensacola), and you're not tied to a job, we have thought we'd want to go during the week.  I realize the difference in the CP16 and CP19 might separate us from the fleet, so this might not be such a good idea.  However, hull speed for both boats is not much different, so it's possible to plan this trip so everybody arrives at a reasonably close time frame.  I'm not sure what the interest would be in terms of exploring places like Ft Pickens, but we could work this out.  You can email us mayrel47@cox.net