New member of CPYOA !

[Coyote]

Good morning everyone,

My name is Alain and my name on the forum is Coyote.
The name come's from Mike Plant famous Vende Globe boat.
My interest here is with a CP19.
(I also have an inclination for the Montgomery 17...)

I am located on the left coast AND north of the border: Vancouver BC.
I would like to know (meet?) with CP19 sailors in the area (say down to Seatle or?)

I am also interested in finding a Com-Pac 19 for sale, the goal is to sail the boat in the Juan the fucas area, sunshine coast etc.

Looking forward to our upcoming chats.

Kind regards,


Coyote

[kahpho]

Welcome Alain,

I'm almost two states south from you. Not so many of us on the west side of the continent but there is a few. Can't help you with CP19 but I do occasionally see them for sale on craigslist and other places. Good luck with your search.

[mayrel]

Hello Alian,
  We're new to this group also, great site with great help available on demand.  Although we currently just purchased a CP16, and I've never sailed a CP19, we did own a Montgomery 17.  I can share my thoughts and opinion for you to review.
  The M17 is a fine sailboat designed by one of the best, Lyle Hess.  He designed her to be a minimalist coastal cruiser, and she will deliver in spades.  She's a heavy ole girl at 1600 pounds, so you need a healthy tow vehicle.  Rigging, launching and retrieving is a bit daunting for one, best accomplished by two physically able folks. Suffice it to say, this is not a boat you drop in the water for a short day/evening sail.  We trailered ours with a Nissan Frontier V6 truck, and we stayed out for a minimum of a week of cruising.  She has plenty of storage, although much of the storage bins are under the Vberth and quarter berths, so accessing things you need a good memory, or a layout chart with items well marked.  There is ample room for two to sit across from one another.  Sleeping is comfortable, although using the head is located under the Vberth, so privacy can be an issue if foul weather.  We hate chemical portapots and use a 3 gallon bucket with fitted toilet seat(sold at west marine)and dry bags; easy to use, move in or out of the cabin and certainly easier to dispose of waste.
  We did find a couple things we didn't like about the M17, all of which are not "show stoppers".  The cockpit drains syphon water frequently due to the poor designed flappers on the thru hull exits.  I simply purchased some rubber stoppers from Lowes which solved the problem.  If you need to open the drains, just remove the stoppers.  Some install cockpit grates, but these allow dirt and crud to build up underneath the grateing.  It's a personal preference.  Although the Vberth is comfortable, the compression post is in the way, so you have to remember it's there.  Access to the stern area under the cockpit is limited, although we used plastic containers on tethers for light stuff.  And it's really not the easiest trailerable sailboat to tow, rig, launch and retrieve. IMO the M17 is best kept in a slip and only trailered to access other cruising grounds for longer voyages.
  These boats are quality built.  I do believe the older models had different cabin layouts, they included a small galley and single quarter berth.  These boats were built prior to 2001 when Jerry Montgomery sold the company.  The new owner made some improvements and changes to these boats.  One major improvement was the centerboard.  He upgraded to a weighted fiberglassed board vice the older iron board.  I believe he changed the stern to be flat and installed a motor mount vice the indented motor mount.  Ours was a 2005. 
  These boats hold their value very well, as do ComPac's.  The Montgomery being build on the west coast is generally easier to find, the Compac's being built in Florida make them easier to find on the gulf and eastern seaboard.  The Montgomery lapstrake hull design has it's pro's and con's; some like the more traditional look, but lapstrake is more difficult to clean and wax.  I've been aboard a CP19, like the CP16 and CP23, the cabin layout is more open, which I like.  The CP19 may not be quite as fast as the M17 due to the large sail area differences, shoal keel versus centerboard/keel. Either boat is certainly equally capable of handling heavy weather; I prefer safety over speed.
  Hope this helps....John