Mast Step?

[Pat McL]

I just stepped the mast on Teddy B for the first time in 20 years, and found that the same 0ld problem I had since I bought the boat in '76 was solvable by raising the mast  by 1" in the tabernacle. (Maple shim for now). This allowed me to tune the rig, whereas before, all turnbuckles were completely tight with still some play in the rig. Forestay and shrouds, including turnbuckles, chainplates etc. are all original stock, and measure out to spec.  Anyone out there had a similar problem on a 16/1? Also need a jib block for the mast. Original is a Holt Allen, and I can find only in England. How about substitutes? Any help here?   Tnx! --- Pat

[Liane]

Hi Pat

I'm sorry I can't help you in return for all your help.
Just wanted to let you know my boat is a '76 too!

Liane (the also ex-chemist)

[mhallas]

i have the same problem, but i blame it on a non-original jib roller system. The swivel fittings and such added length to the forestay.  I like the idea of shimming the mast up a bit, never occured to me?  You said you used maple as a temporary fix; what were you going to use permanently?


matt hallas
'76 cp16 "Sarlacc"

[Pat McL]

Hi Matt
My permanent solution (short of shortening shrouds & forestay) will be a 3/4' block of aluminum cut to fit the tabernacle, and tapped/screwed from the sides to keep it in place. Haven't measured, but I think some stretching took place over the years.

Liane, what number is your 16? Do you have the original Johnson sails with the number as well? (I'll bet you know what C2H5(OH) can do to you)!

--tnx guys! As they say in amateur radio land, 73's.   -- Pat

[Liane]

Pat

burn a hole in your esophagus? run your car? make REALLY bad punch?

The question is, Pat, what do YOU use it for...

What number are you looking for?  the VIN?  or a model number or something?

Have the sails with the CP symbol on it (that's how I found out the manufacturer, boat didn't come with title, had to really work that one out, but made it thanks to friendly lady at OR marine board not afraid of microfisch), never noticed any numbers on the sail.  When I **FINALLY** get 'er in the water next weekend, will look more closely.

BUT FIRST, as long as I've got your attention...a VERY IMP QUESTION:

I can see from pics that a line runs from the boom to the top of the mast, to help hold up the boom (in conjunction with it hooking to mast towards bottom end)

BUT:  I don't see where it would go to on the top of MY mast... 

I've got the side-by-side pulleys in the cast steel open ended box on the top, but figured that was for the main halyard...  And there are no other holes to put a u-shaped thing with pin through, to make another loop to pull a line through...

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What does the line going from the aft end of the boom to the top of the mast connect to at the top of the mast?
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Again, sorry I don't have answers for you.  But I"ve got plenty of questions!

Been working on the boat ALL day, covered in tiny fiberglass particles and goo.
Can't wait to get this girl on the water!

THANKS!

Liane

[Pat McL]

Liane,
You really are a chemist!!
The line you are referring to is the topping lift, and on my mast there is a convenient hole (about 1/8") drilled between the two pulleys, and slightly lower of center. I just tie off a braided line through here, and tie the other end to the hole in the aft end of the boom.

As far as the ID numbers, found this from Craig who posted it on a previous page in this forum:  http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.html
Should help
--- Pat

[Liane]

Pat

Was that a test!?!?!  Thankfully I passed...

Maybe I'll drill such a hole to mimic your technique.   Thanks for the insight -- didn't want to make new holes without knowing what was "supposed" to be there.

I'm slowly figuring out that it's basically "whatever works for you", but with no experience it's a little trickier.

Thanks!

Liane

[Paul]

Pat:

Thanks for posting the link.  That answers another question I had on another thread.

Liane:

My cp-16 has a topping lift, too.  Hole drilled in same place Pat reffers to.  Braided line threaded through the hole tied with a figure 8 stopper knot.  Other end looped through aft end of the boom (there's hole) and tied with a taught-line hitch.  This is an adjustable knot, very convenient.

Keep us updated with the keel project, too.

[Liane]

Pat:  the number on the sail is 141.  What does that mean?

Paul:  keel project done -- it ain't purty, but it held -- didn't take any water on, didn't sink, seems to hold up.  Haven't fixed up the inside, just got her sail-able and went for it.  Woo hoo!  It was fun.

Liane

[Pat McL]

Liane,

Glad to hear from you. We were all wondering where you went, and more importantly, if you got back ok. Apparently, you have boat #141. Kind of an honor as it one of the early ones. Read up on K3v1n's first sail, as it's well worth the time. He did very well, and has some experiences you may identify with.  September is my anticipated launch. The last time Suzy and I were out was in 1989 --- she found the pictures!  --- Pat

[Liane]

So, did you read the bit about the bowed mast?

Any ideas on how to straighten it out?

#141, does that mean the 141st boat made?  what's the number mean? 

[Paul]

Not that I was afeared of yer keel falling in the dark depths of the ocean or anyhting:)

Glad the repair was a success.  It don't have to look pretty.  Just need to do the job.

You can check the serial number on the starboard corner of the stern.  See the serial number post for details.  The sail number and the serial number will probably match up.  Incidently, there is a serial number half way down one of the bunks.  I think its starboard side, too.

[Liane]

Hey Paul

there is a "141" in the HIN.  I'll check it out!

Liane

[K3v1n]

Yes I also have added a block of wood under my mast to help with adjustments to the turnbuckles. I guess it is about 1/2" thick, started with 3/4 but it was too much. I'll try and get a picture up of what I did.


-Kevin

[K3v1n]

Here ya go!



The block is 3/4" thick with the area under the mast cut down to about  a 1/2". The ends sticking out and around help hold in place.


-Kevin