79 cp 16 interior needs help

[Luc22]

Hello. I just recently bought a 79 cp 16 in good shape. Everything is great except for the cabin. It's pretty bare bones. I'm talking crummy wood floors., exposed crumbling concrete ballast, battleship gray walls. I have no idea what direction I'm going to take as far a decor. If anyone wants to show off their 16 interior I would be very interested. Thanks. Luc

[GeeW]

Join the club! We too have very recently bought a C-16/3 (yet to be collected...that's another story) and am looking for a bit of inspiration for an interior refit. So I will be watching closely.
I'm in the UK and C-16s are rare. I have only seen one other ComPac in the last 5 years -  a C-19.

Gordon
C-16/3
#2767
'Applejack'

[PalmettoSailor]

Hi luc22
Welcome to  the forum. I just bought my C 16 this summer and haven't had a chance to do much interior work. She was pretty clean when I got her and well taken care of. Not a sparkling gem, but not a project. I've been spending most of my time learning to sail her.
I, too, want to do a few things, so I'll follow along with your progress and see how things go.  Best wishes for lots of fair skies and good breezes.
Marc

[Duckie]

I just bought a 16/3 and I think the interior is kind of posh.  It is tricked out with abundant teak and the hull is carpeted up to the bottom of the house sides.  Mine came with a set of bags that will hold more than I usually keep in either of my boats.  It seems to me that I have seen somewhere that Hutchins sells shaped carpet to replace the original stuff in a 16/3.  That should fit any 16.  I have also seen some that use firing strips to dress up the interior hull.  It might pay to look at as many ads for 16's as you can find.  I noticed a lot of different treatments in the ads that I reviewed.  Sailing Texas has a good sampling.  I personally think that it is important to dress up the interior of any cruising boat no matter how small.  If you are going to use it even just to get out of the weather for a while, it will be much better if it is inviting.  The cabin on my Weekender is the size of a mountaineering tent.  I have spent a fair amount of time in there and enjoy it even though I can't sit up.  I have cabinetry and decorative accents appropriate to such a small space so that when I am in it I am content.  

Al

[jb]

Luc22

look at this web site and poke around at some interiors pictures that are available

 " http://www.sailingtexas.com/cboats99compac161979.html "

Personally, a basic approach,  just to address the crumbling concrete and painting the gray walls a lighter color, maybe a piece of removable indoor/outdoor carpeting on the floor and forward flat surfaces would make a difference.


j

[Luc22]

Thanks everyone for the help and warm welcome. I can definitely see this forum helping me get through a long New York winter. Thanks again

[GretchenG]

Welcome, Luc22--  There's a lot on the forum about fixing the crumbling concrete keel, so search for posts on that. 
The biggest improvement to Thankful's bare-bones cabin was painting everything forward of the lazarette gloss white.  Wow, suddenly you're not in the dungeon anymore!  Now I don't get depressed below decks anymore.
I also made a half-height bulkhead to put in the bow to isolate the anchor rode--not yet installed.
Other than that I haven't done anything fancy.  I want to make a galley box, and figure out how to secure milk crates in the forepeak for stowage.  That may be about it--I've got to get this boat in the water sometime!
Look around the forum, there are some gorgeous projects for reference.  Have fun--  Gretcheng

[Tim]

I'll join this club! I just recently purchased a 1980 16. When I first looked at the boat I was a little intimidated, but the price was right and it's a small (project) boat, right?
I have been reading about Com-Pacs for about 8 months before buying one. I really wanted to move down in size and have a boat that I can trailer with my vehicle.

The inside of her looks bad. It looks like every piece of wood is going to have to be replaced and some of the hardware is going to have to rebedded.
I'm not sure about the keel. After reading here I'm a little nervous. The boat is in MA living at a family members house and I haven't had a chance to really go through her since the purchase (last week). Instead, this week was spent retitling both the boat and the trailer here in NY...always a fun visit to the DMV.

Long story short, I would love to bounce ideas off of people here and get some fresh thoughts and ideas. For me, half of the fun of owning a boat is problem solving and having an excuse to talk about boats. Over the last two years I have been fixing up an older Pearson 26. I sold her last summer before getting married. Here are some pics:
https://sites.google.com/site/sailapearson26/

I have stated modifying the rudder and gluing and finishing the tiller right now. So projects are starting to begin. I would like to get the boat framed and covered before the snow starts really flying in MA. My hope is to have the inside gutted before February.

Tim

[capt_nemo]

Luc22 & Others,

WOW, what an opportunity you all have staring you in the face. Like an artist standing before a new bare canvas ready to express his thoughts and dreams in oils. You are looking at the interior of a boat crying out for some TLC. Sit back, relax, list the projects to be accomplished, establish priorities, and ENJOY THE PROCESS OF MAKING HER YOUR OWN POCKET CRUISER.

To many of us (older and more experienced cruisers), a large part of the enjoyment of having a boat(s) is being able to modify them in some way to improve some aspect of the sailing experience.

Just take it one step at a time and revel in the joy of the experience. Bye now, gotta get back to building my fourth boat - a Kayak this time!

This photo, taken down below in my Pocket Cruiser, says it all.

capt_nemo

[GeeW]

A very true statement there. Over the years I have spent many a happy hour in the cabin of my various boats contemplating life, the universe and many other things besides!!! Small boats are better as in the winter they are usually in the garage.....

[deisher6]

Hey Tim:
A couple of things to think about as you put your C-16 interior back together.  Both of the C-16's that we have owned had compression posts extending from the top of the cabin under the mast, to the keel of the boat usually through the shelf in the bow.  They also had support for the cockpit deck, in our boats in the form of a large block of styrofoam wedged between the cockpit and the bottom of the boat.  Some on this forum have made other supports for the cockpit to increase storage. 

Both these items deserve serious consideration when rebuilding the interior of your C-16.

Best of luck in your restoration.

regards charlie

[Cats Paw]

Best of luck with your project. Determination and perseverance will get it complete. I suggest not to take short cuts and use the best products. I just recently finished my 1980 CP 16 restoration.  { CP-16 Forum  Mission Complete} Posted pics.

[Tim]

capt_nemo, I couldn't agree with you more. I am very excited about having a clean slate to work with. Good luck with the kayak project!! Helping a friend build his 18' Chesapeake Light Craft was my introduction to the world of boat building and ironically enough my interest in fiberglass.

GeeW, I wish that I had garage space to work on the boat. I'll spend next week making some kind of shelter for her. I'll do my best to make it garage like though.

Charlie, thanks. I noticed right away that someone had cut the old compression post out. My guess is that it was cut out because it was rotten. I am currently looking at, investigating ideas, and brainstorming about alternative compression post builds. I don't love the original center placement of the of the 16s. But, with that being said my mind always wanders astray when I begin tackling a problem.

If you look at my overbuilt P26 mod, you'll see that I went a little crazy overbuilding the compression system and mast step. https://sites.google.com/site/sailapearson26/

And on that note, I also re-over-built the cockpit in the P26 and I was contemplating modifying the original CP-16 design.

One more thing Charlie, did you rebed the hull/ deck joint?

Cats Paw, yes and yes. There is no way I'm going to take a shortcut or use subpar materials...it's not in my Yankee nature to do either.

I have been following your CP-16 Forum: Mission Complete and have looked over your pictures 100 times...so big THANKS for putting the effort in and getting those pictures up and into the interweb. I'll inevitable have questions for you and I thank you in advance for any help and advice you will offer me.

Tim

[deisher6]

Hey Tim:
Nope I did not need to do anything with the hull deck joint, there were no leeks.
That is one heck of a rebuild on the Pearson!  Very nice work.
The C-16 should be pretty easy in comparison.
regards charlie

[Tim]

Well, that is good to hear Charlie!
I haven't gotten the chance to look at my hull/deck joint yet, but I'm hoping that it's in better shape then what I found yesterday.
I got the boat home Saturday AM and started taking the cabin apart right away.
I am unhappy, but not surprised, to report that the concrete ballast material was is bad shape.
After sponging up water in the bilge for 20 minutes and having more water appearing from seemingly nowhere I deduced that the water must be coming from w/in the keel. This led me to drill a hole in the keel. When water started blowing out of this hole I drilled 5 more holes.

Question for Luc: What action have you taken in regard to your keel/ ballast situation?

I have read and reread all the threads that come from searching the forum about keels, ballast, concrete, etc. Save Steven's aka keyskid's insanely awesome lead smelting project
(http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=5837.msg41184#msg41184)
most of the information I yielded was unsatisfactory.

Any thoughts anyone?


Thanks for the input and the help everyone,
Tim