gas storage

[jb]

looking for suggestions on how to store/secure gas on a 96 CP 16 while under sail and also kept on a mooring. ? The most practical location seems to be under the teak slats at the stern end of the cockpit, but the low height beneath this area restricts the use of the standard 1 or 2 gallon containers. I've done a limited search looking for a low profile gas containers but have not found anything suitable at a reasonable price.  The OB motor is a 2HP Honda with self contained tank.

thanks in advance for any responses.

j

[Tim Gardner]

Try looking at this:  http://rotopax.com/3-Gallon-Packs/

[BruceW]

Back in the day, when I got my CP 19, it had the gas cover at the stern raised up. I think the PO had given up on finding the smaller gas tank. The only issue was, the top of the cover wasn't flush with the other seats. I never changed it, and nobody sat there anyway, so maybe something along those lines would work for you.

[JBC]

Thanks JB for asking your question and thanks Tim for your link: may be just the solution I'm also seeking for my CP 16/III and 2 1/2 hp Suzuki.  I used a small 1 gallon tank and tried placing it on its side to fit under the grate, but whatever I tried to seal it from leaking never worked.  I do like that grate to ride down and snug.  Looks like this tank might be the ticket.
Jett

[jb]

Tim, looks like a good option. Thanks

j

[NateD]

Looks like a good option except for the $84 price tag, jeeeez. Also, it says it is 16 x 15 x 4. My CP16 is in storage so I can't measure myself, will this fit neatly on the cockpit sole under the wood grate?

Is there 13.5" of verticle clearance under the wood grate? If so, this can might be a good choice: http://www.amazon.com/No-Spill-1405-2-Gallon-Poly-Compliant/dp/B000W72GBC/ref=lp_396315011_1_1?s=lawn-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1395237743&sr=1-1

[jb]

Nate,

can't help with measurements..boat also in storage and I'm suffering with the Florida weather. I was thinking about http://rotopax.com/1.75-Gallon/  still pricey for a gas container but the best option that I've seen to date?

j

[Tim Gardner]

The cockpit floor is 19"+ wide on a 16, the only dimension in question is the length of the gas can space.  In my 19 the three gallon OMC can fits right in.  It's 15 " wide and fits in sideways.
TG

[carry-on]

My 16 is a '97. From old notes (2011), the fuel storage space under the stern wood seat is H=8"; D=12"; W=171/2". I can fit a three gallon remote tank feeding the 4 hp Nissan. Don't need three gallons, but have not found a smaller remote tank.
I think these measurements are OK, but if you need a double check, I will be at the boat later this week and can confirm.

[JBC]

I just measured and my gas storage area is 8 1/2" high, 19 1/2" wide and 12" deep from transom to a built in lip, designed to keep whatever is put there from sliding forward into the cockpit.  I'm sure this area under the lid is designed for a 3 gallon tank with hose and bulb.  My CP 16 III has a 3rd hole in the transom, identical to the other two scuppers, so the hose can run from the gas tank to the motor without going over the transom.  But since I use a small outboard with an internal tank, my only requirement is that the gas tank fit under the lid, without leaking.  That would be handy and keep the infernal gas tank out of the way and out of the cabin!

Jett

[carry-on]

I have a one gallon can made by BLITZ. It is just under 8" high with spout off. Fits under the bench. Two would fit and give you considerable iron wind time. About $15-$20 per
. Self venting; I prefer manual.  Need a top vent for the Florida heat. 

[JBC]

Carry-on,

Many thanks for the info.  Looked up the Blitz and it sure looks like a fit (and much cheaper solution).

Jett

[hinmo]

or fill a couple empty qrt oil cans and toss em where you want, thats what i do in my dingys and alls fine.... no leakage, no venting needed, cheap....only works as reserve for engines with self contained tanks

[Pacman]

Now much fuel do you really need to carry?

I fill the tank on my Honda 2 hp and carry a 1 gallon reserve.

When I get home after a long day of sailing, I top up the tank on the motor and dump the rest of the 1 gallon reserve into my van.

I might need more fuel if I had a big thirsty 2-stroke motor but my little Honda uses so little that I can't imaging taking more fuel along unless I was going to be out for several days.

I do carry oars too so if the motor broke and the wind died I could row.

Whatever you do, keep the fuel tank out of the bilge where fumes can collect and blow you up.

[jb]

Pacman

the quantity of gas is not the main issue for me. I'm more interested in being able to leave the appropriate gas container on the boat, out of the way, in a secure manner while left on the mooring and under sail.

Occasionally, under the  right conditions, I wander 7-8 miles off shore and would like a little spare gas capacity like a 1.75 or 2 gal tank just in case the wind disappears and the tide is working against me.

j