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Bought an old trailer today

Started by BruceW, February 06, 2014, 04:58:35 PM

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BruceW

Before I need the tires, I need to raise the bunks.

Now, I don't see a lot of info on the uprights, but I see that LoadRite sells uprights up to 36" long.

Sometime when you guys can, would you measure the uprights you are using for the bunks? I am thinking that 2' keel, curve of hull, it might need the 36" upright to hold the bunk up there.

I have looked on Champion trailer, Eastern, the Road King and the Magic Tilt sites as well, and the Loadrite is the only one I saw with the longer upright brackets.

thanks in advance! 
Bruce Woods
Raleigh: WR 17
New Bern: CP 23

MacGyver

2 things to remember with sailboats as a majority, is that they are meant to sit on their keel, and the supports are meant to keep it from falling over.
With that in mind, it is also good to support under it a little bit as well, especially during trailering, and the bumping keeps hull support as well.

When I talked to Gerry Hutchins one time, he told me that the 19 was meant to me forklift stored, and due to that and the fact that dry stacking is EXTREMELY popular down there, and that most of the CPs in that time frame sold without trailers, I would have to believe that the 23 is setup the same, and thusly could possibly just be solely supported on the hull. This is probably why they are built so well IMHO

if you get the boat on the trailer with short adjusted uprights, you can use a jack to adjust them into final position.

I havent read this whole thread, sorry. Hope some of the above information I just purged from my head helps.

Mac
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BruceW

Yes, Mac, we are on the same page.

The keel does the support, the bunks help balance, since the keel is relatively speaking a knife edge to balance on.

So, I need to figure the distance from the crosspiece to the keel so I can buy the right uprights to hold the bunks.

Having said all of that, yeah, I could estimate the setting, and then when the boat is on, true it up.

Bruce Woods
Raleigh: WR 17
New Bern: CP 23

Greene

Quote from: tigersailor on February 16, 2014, 09:05:43 AM
Before I need the tires, I need to raise the bunks.

Now, I don't see a lot of info on the uprights, but I see that LoadRite sells uprights up to 36" long.

Sometime when you guys can, would you measure the uprights you are using for the bunks? I am thinking that 2' keel, curve of hull, it might need the 36" upright to hold the bunk up there.

I have looked on Champion trailer, Eastern, the Road King and the Magic Tilt sites as well, and the Loadrite is the only one I saw with the longer upright brackets.

thanks in advance! 

Check out the response from Brackish in this thead.  He gave the info to set up my old trailer for a 23.

http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=4893.0

Mike
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BruceW

Thanks, Mike! That thread and Brackish's pictures made a lot clear to me that I had not known.

I'll keep up with the measurements. Makes it easier to know what to buy. I saw that the uprights are square tubes, as opposed to the flatter brackets. I'm wondering if that makes them stronger, or if it's just something to know. I think I saw some square tubing I could get. I'll have to figure out how to attach them upper and lower, though. The flat ones have brackets that I can understand.

First I'll have to take off my bunks, and free up the brackets, de-rustify the trailer, and then paint the galvanize back on. That happens when it's at least 70 degrees.

Then, I can re-bold the current bunks up higher, using whatever I get for uprights and brackets.  The current brackets for the bunks are about the right height for the keel guide, so I can just attach new guide boards there. I don't  have nearly as many rollers as Brackish does to hold the keel. Just 4 individual ones on the various cross pieces. I'll need to go check the length of the keel to see if it would even cross more than two of them. I'd think that was okay.

Also, since you got a measurement of center of dual axles to the bow roller, I am guessing that's something to help balance the boat on the trailer? I will take some photos and do my own measurements of the same points on this trailer, and post that later.

Bruce
Bruce Woods
Raleigh: WR 17
New Bern: CP 23

Bob23

Bruce:
   PeterG asked me to measure my trailer so he could set up his for his newly purchased 23. Apparently, the boat fit ok. If I still have the meas's, I post 'em.
Bob23

BruceW

Thanks to you too, Bob; that way it will be measured twice! ;)
Bruce Woods
Raleigh: WR 17
New Bern: CP 23

brackish

One other dimension I sent Mike by PM is from the center of the wheel sets, I.E. the point that is between the axles and an equal distance to each, to the bow chock on the winch post.  That dimension is 142"

Cruzin

The trailer set-up dimensions are already posted on the site somewhere. I received a diagram from Com-pac and one of the more highly skilled members posted them on the site for all to utilize. Do a search and I am confident you will find them. I used these when setting up my trailer for my 23 and all went well.
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