precision boats

[mattman]

Kickingbug, there is a Capri 16 you can rent at the Sailing association, it looks like it would fit your parameters well, for a few bucks you could get a picture of a slightly larger boat that should sail decently. There is nothing wrong with asking for a sea trial, in fact if a seller was not interested in allowing that I would walk. Just my thoughts. I have taken buyers out on most of the boats that I have sold, just made the negotiation easier with their excitement of being on the water.
Happy sailing.

[kickingbug1]

    thanks matt i will look into it. if you are sailing saturday look for us, i think we will be out there sometime afternoon      thanks again buddy

[Toolman]

Steve,

I may be the closest Eclipse owner to you geographically... anytime you need dimensions, etc. please let me know.  I'd also be glad to drive down to Texas with you if you change your mind on the one listed there! Give our best to Sarah!

Luke & Debbie

[kickingbug1]

 i think the eclipse in texas is being sold by a broker (and the guy hasnt answered my email yet) and if i had the 12 grand i would consider it.  and luke i appreciate the offer to head out on a "road trip". that would be a hoot by itself.  matt i checked on the 19-----given the condition of the boat---9 grand is pretty steep-----but im gonna work on the owner for a while longer. selling it to me would be better than paying storage.

[Bob23]

Commodore Kick:
   Here are a few for you:
http://worcester.craigslist.org/boa/4130425741.html

http://cnj.craigslist.org/boa/4124828369.html

Bottoms up!
Bob23

[skip1930]

Not wanting to upset anybody but...

My neighbor who was Logan dog's vet had a Capri 16 and that boat sailed like a dog.
Something was just not right with it.

Doc sold it and picked up a Stonehorse named Seahorse, of course.

skip.

[kickingbug1]

 cant think of a more interesting "road trip" luke------thanks buddy  ill keep in touch------gotta get you, matt, rich, john, and wroundy for a few beers soon

[mattman]

Capri 16
Length Overall 16 feet, 6 inches
Beam 6 feet, 11 inches
Draft, Wing Keel 2 feet, 5 inches
Ballast, Cast Lead Keel 450 pounds
Displacement 1,350 pounds
Sail area 138

This doesn't look especially slow. Skip did you sail that 16? If so what did you notice, I owned an 18 for four years and it sailed quite well, the 22 sails really well, (not j22 well but...now we are to apples and oranges.)

Here is an interesting link

http://smallcraftadvisor.com/archived-articles/8-small-craft-advisor-cruiser-challenge-1

Happy Sailing.

[skip1930]

Sailed two, two hour trips. Helmed it for about 1/2 hour in light wind and easy seas.
I couldn't put my finger on it.
It responded to the helm fine. A little input and she gyrated with what the rudder was asking for.
Came about slowly [light wind on one trip] had to do a little sculling with the rudder.

To me I think the sail up the mast and the sail down boom's length were really never close to a 90 degrees. [boom high]
I was wishing for some boom vang to pull that boom down. Could have been the cut of the mainsail.

Have no idea why this was such a problem.

It just kind of felt like it was dragging a wad of seaweed astern and could not get out of it's own way. But it wasn't.

That one was just doggy.

skip.

[mattman]

Skip, I thought the same thing when I got the 18, it felt "stodgy", but when sailing with a hunter 23 coming up the channel with me, it became apparent we were faster than we thought and my buddy in the 23 commented as such. Sorry for your friends boat, I think you are right maybe the sail was funky, but I think you see that in the shape pretty quickly, I will have to check the club boat next spring, my curiosity is piqued!
Happy Sailing.

[Smier]

    i wonder if anyone on the site has first hand information as to the quality of a precision boat. i know that precision boat works builds the colgate 26 and that taylor designed the starwind. the boats are generally built lighter than our com-pacs and carry more sail as well, and should be faster if not as durable.

I checked out a couple Precision's this past August at the Sailboat Shop in NJ.  I was impressed, and really liked them.  I had actually gone to check out another boat he had on consignment that turned out to be a bust.  I really liked the design and the interior layout, but the whole time I was looking at them it just convinced me to stick with my current project boat, a 1983 Starwind 22!  I had no idea that they were both designed by Jim Taylor, but that explains the similarities.  Build quality seemed very good, and the owner of the Sailboat shop raved about his, and he made reference to how well built he felt the Precision's are.

I also love the look of the Compac's, unfortunately, I don't enjoy the lack of space below decks (I have 3 young children).  I even looked at a project CP23 that's on consignment there, but theres just not enough room for our family of 5... Good luck on your search, and as always, I appreciate all the knowledge on this site!

[kickingbug1]

    thanks for the input, there is a p165 for sale in st louis (30 miles away). i think the boat was sold but hadnt been picked up yet. if it is still there im gonna run over and have a look.