Advice Requested: Looking at a CP-23 1981

[Tim Gardner]

Neo,  there is very little difference.  The II has the factory bowsprit and SS bow and stern pulpits and lifeline stations instead of aluminum.
the prices are on the high side but not too high.
TG

[jthatcher]

interesting answers..   i wonder which black truck they are describing...      you are correct to think that the trailer could be suspect.  and  I agree with the others..  you don't have the right tow vehicle.    I don't either..  and no trailer either.. i keep mine at a marina in jersey..   it is a 3 hour trip for me to get here.. and not a pleasant one, but it sure is nice once i am here!   lots of nice folks in this neck of the woods.. like bob23 

I don't know enough about  prices to advise you.. ( gut reaction, however, is that the price is a bit high )   but, have you been to Burlington?  another family destination for sure!    Church street is a lot of fun - pedestrian area..  the waterfront is great with a cool museum for the kids and the adults...  gee,   i should try to get up there myself     Higher Ground  has some great music..  we saw  Punch Brothers there a year or so ago...

i read the posting..  i am curious about a furling main sail..  perhaps they are referring to roller reefing?   as for sleeping 4 adults..   i would love to hear what a compac 19 owner thinks about that.   the 23 has 4 places for someone to lie down..  but actually sleeping?     you better be very good friends..  my wife and i camp out on the boat..  we brought my stepdaughters down for a weekend.. the four of us on the boat..  to say that it is cramped is an understatement..    let's just say that is it fortunate that we were on the boat in a marina with bathrooms..   otherwise the porta potti would have been in the cockpit.. wait a min, that is where my wife and i spent the second night     

  I hope some of what I have written here is a bit helpful..    all in all,  a trip to burlington sounds like a blast!

[neosoul]

Well I just heard back from the owner from Vermont of the 1984 CP-19 and he'll sell it to me for 4k.
Does anyone know if the wooden bowsprit was an option offered by Com-Pac or is this a custom mod?

I plan on calling the owner of the boat in Connecticut today. Without a trailer, this boat poses a small problem of getting it to my mooring in the Peconic Bay. I would not feel comfortable sailing a new boat from eastern Connecticut, across Fisher Island sound, Block Island Sound and around Orient Point to the Peconic Bay. This means I must find a trailer or pay to transport the boat.

Anyone have any numbers for a 1985 CP-19 II? (BTW - thanks for explaining the difference between the 19 & the 19 II)

I really have to try to do something else today beside looking for boats. My wife says I'm obsessed - she's probably right.
Neo

[jthatcher]

we are all obsessed..   i have a feeling that a trip to vt  is in the near future     jt

[neosoul]

Well I found another CP-19 II this time in NJ. The owner lives in PA and its a 1986, I found it on Sailboatlistings.com Take a look http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/35815.
I liked speaking to this man on the phone he was a straight-talker and seem knowledgeable about his boat. He was honest with me and said that during hurricane Sandy the boat lifted off its stands, hitting the boat next to her. this resulted in an 18 inch stress fracture on the topside that he had filled and repaired professionally. (Are there any other red flags I should consider based in this info? He said other than that the boat is fine.) Overall I have a good feeling about this boat. This could be the one, but I need to find a trailer.

Does anyone have the dimensions I would need to modify a bunk trailer to fit a CP-19? I know the weight of the boat should rest on the keel pad and the bunks just steady the boat. It seems that modifying a bunk trailer is my only option since finding a trailer specifically designed and manufactured for this boat is practically impossible or just too expensive. 

Also, for those of you following along with this saga, the owner of boat I found on Craigslist, located in Eastern Connecticut, is unwilling to move on his price enough for me to to make that deal happen. I thought he'd be motivated a bit to move on his price because he's been trying to sell it since February 2013. (He also has it listed on sailingtexas.com.)

The 1984 CP-19 in Vermont is now a fall-back, but to tell the truth I was never that pumped-up about that boat as I am about this one in NJ. I hope to make arrangements to see the boat in NJ on Tuesday. I'll let you know how it goes.
Neo

[Bob23]

Well, Neo- this sounds interesting.
   I wonder what is meant by the term "topsides"? Does he mean the hull above the waterline (I believe that's what is really meant by the term; correct me if I'm wrong) or the cabin or the deck? In any event, it if was done proffesionally, can you see the inside of the repair? Can you speak to the guy who actually did the repair?
   It shouldn't be hard to find a trailer and there are many guys here who can provide you with the techs on modifying a trailer to fit a CP 19.
   Not being a 19 owner, I can't comment on the price but I will anyway...seems a bit steep without a trailer but I'm sure you'll hear from more knowledgable chaps than me.
   Keep us posted,
Bob23

[Adnoh]

NeoSoul
Here is the website that I found my boat on.
http://sailingtexas.com/
I know it says Texas in the name but my boat was only 100 miles away in Tennessee when I found it.
They currently show a bunch of 23's
Most have photos so you can compair

[jthatcher]

wow.. just checked out sailing texas..  this has been  a regular routine  for the past few years       this is sacrilig, i know. but  if you can go to texas..  this is the boat you want       http://sailingtexas.com/201201/spacificseacraft24103.html

or maybe the one i want..    as for sandy damage.. i will be writing about that in just a bit on   the adventures of adagio..   there has been a ton of work  for boat repair guys!    we are all looking forward to hearing what you find out tomorrow..    for me personally,   it is good to hear that you have a good feeling about a guy who lives in PA  and keeps his boat in jersey!     jt