Results of test of 30 lb thrust trolling motor in windy conditions

[Bob23]

Good sermon, brother Wes:
   I love the Prius but don't have one...just don't need a new car right now. My daughter in law has an Insight...gets about 48  mpg. And without any of the plug-in nonsense. I like the hybrid Camry.
  I will admit to being a motorhead. While I have not been, nor will ever be a powerboater, I do love the marvel of the internal combustion engine. It served to save my 23 from a collision with a dock on one occasion...saved her from pilot error, it did.
bob23

[skip1930]

"  I'm sure my little Mercury/Tohatsu 5 HP has consumed more $ in fuel, oil and maintance over its life than the original cost of the motor. "

Wait for the battery replacement costs to hit home.

From part of yesterday's facebook discussion

-->Skip Weis Yesterday.

In the Chevron product ads STOP using the term RENEWABLE ENERGY...no such thing as renewable energy...look up the meaning of ENTROPY and learn what it is. It is not possible to fool Mother Nature.
The only two sources of energy on earth are Sun Shine and Nuclear. You can't name a renewable energy source.
~Wind? Sun heating air masses. Differential temperatures.
~Falling water? How did the water
go up? Sun evaporation.
~Sugar cane distilled into alcohol and burned? Grow more sugar cane. Thats Sun Power. Alcohol has less btu's in it than gasoline so you'll have to burn more alcohol to go the same distance.
~Solar cells? Sun Power. Sun goes down. No power.
~Batteries? They don't store energy. It's an instant chemical reaction of closing a circuit.
~Tidal Wave action? Wind from the Sun and pull from the moon.
~It's a solid Nuclear core in earth that keeps Old Faithful, faithful.
~Bio Mass? Grown algae. It is distilled Sun Power.
~Coal, Natural gas, oil? All sun powered bio btu's stored.

Everything is made of moving molecules of adams and it takes an energy input to keep these molecules moving. It is not possible to keep these molecules moving without an input of more energy. For example, it takes more electricity to charge up a battery then was ever pulled out of a battery. It takes a 'bizzion' btu's of solar power to make just a few kW of electricity. Some 3,412 btu/kW. Some 180,000 btu in a gallon of gasoline. Some 1,000 btu in a cubic foot of Natural gas and 2,800 btu in a cubic foot of propane.

What do you see here? Energy is always HEAT. Without heat we are dead. Or in the process of assuming room temperature.

Stuart Laycock That's why the Toyota Prius pisses me off. Nickel is mined in Canada, shipped to Scandinavia to make batteries, the batteries are then shipped to Japan to make the car, then the car is shipped back to North America.

Think you're saving the planet buying a Prius? You're a moron.

Skip Weis I agree. And note that I have no need to 'save' the planet. It's doing just fine. Note that Toyota found it too expensive to manufacture parts AND assemble in Japan. So Toyota tried assembly in China with Japanese made parts. That became too expensive. So now Toyota has moved assembly to South Korea using Japanese made parts. Fuji Heavy Industries, aluminum supplier to Toyota has factory ships that sail out of Japan to Australia, scrape the bauxite off the beach onto the factory ships, sail 12 miles off the coast, fire up the smelters, toss the dregs over the side, belch the affluents out the stacks, and deliver aluminum ingots to the aluminum casters in Japan that Toyota buys to remelt and cast their aluminum pieces. It's all very cost efficient to be sure. Remember, Japan has no natural resopurces...hence the war efforts. No steel, no rubber, no oil, and on and on. skip.

David Rowbotham A surprising amount of stuff touted as "green" isn't anything of the sort once you factor in production and transport methods and costs.

CE Instruments Ltd Quite happy to agree, but. there is only one form of energy, Nuclear, what is our sun but a giant nuclear reactor posisioned many miles from our homes.

Skip Weis Ah...touch`e

Alicia Renee' Perry I agree that we can't go green until we can honestly make the materials as cost effective as possible, both monetarily and environmentally. :/ Though, it's quite exciting that they're starting to break even with fusion.

[jimdoesmo]

reply to Bella right on man he could sail close to slip then drop sail a good sailor sails into slip its called sailing not motor boating that's my sermon for the day see ya ha ha

[Bob23]

   While we're drifting off thread to land transportation, please remember the humble and most efficient means of human transportation: the bicycle. You wanna go green? Ride a bike. If I could rig a pedal mechanism to propel my Compac 23, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
   Bob23...(I sail on and off my mooring. Motor is just backup when safety demands it.)