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Started by Davo, March 14, 2012, 02:18:58 PM

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Davo

okay, I'm finally getting around to sorting out the rigging for mast raising and I'm trying to make sure I have everything mostly ready so there are no surprises when I get going...before this Compac 23 I had a Catalina 22 very simply rigged, so a few items I'm going to ask might seem obvious but I just need verification as this one is more fully outfitted than I'm used to.

First off, judging from a tabulated 61' long 5/16 main and jib halyard I am assuming halyards are all-rope halyards standard from Compac, correct? I have a bag of running rigging that I haven't sorted out yet to make sure.


Here you can see the mast head, for the spinnaker I just need to attach a block for the spin halyard?  It seems werid that the block would be free to slide around the crane loop up top, but I've never flown one.
Also, I have a boom pigtail off of the backstay but I want to install a topping lift, is there stock hardware available for this or do I need to improvise? (I fab up a lot of stuff so this is no concern, just asking)


This occurs about 3-4 feet down from the mast head, looks like a baby stay and has a small block for an inner sail (like a cutter rig?)  It attaches to the actual bow whereas the main head stay attaches to the bowspirit.  Would this be more ideal for a storm sail?  I guess it allows for more sail plan options as I have a CDI FF2 furler on the headstay, although I am unsure as to how I will like it (I'm used to hank ons).  The side lines coming off of the bail are lazy jack lines, they look to be in pretty bad shape, I'll need to at least replace the rope lines, the stainless lines are coated and might last a few seasons if not all rusty, I am assuming I can replace the rope lines while the mast is up correct?


Here you can see about where the baby stay attaches on the mast.  Also, look at the boom traveler, I'm assuming that is not standard is it?  it's more like what I had on my Catalina 22, just bigger.


Here is the best pic I have of the bowspirit, it was added after the fact, you can see the original bow stem fitting where the baby stay now attaches up through the bowspirit that was added.


Here's the deck hardware for halyards run aft, also it has the furler fairleads that attach to the stanchions I'm missing a stanchion though :/


This block attached to the shroud below the spreader boot (which looks like it needs to be replaced) I assume is for flag raising, they are on each side.

Anyways, let me know if you see anything weird or that I might think about adding before raising the mast, I'll get the halyards on for the main and inner head sail, not sure about messing with the spinnaker yet but I might as well get what I need on there so I don't have to take the mast down more than I want to...


brackish

Yes, the standard halyards are all rope
Yes, that is where you put your spinnaker halyard block.  If you plan to use one, even if you don't have it now, I'd rig the block and halyard.
Many folks have rigged topping lifts to keep the boom from going boom when you drop your main prior to hooking up the pigtail.  Here is a discussion on it, there are others if you search.   http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=4919.0
That bail/block/babystay setup is not standard, it must have been an add on when the PO added the sprit.  Do you have a sail for it?
Yes, the mainsheet traveler is not standard, the normal set up is two fixed blocks on the transom, one with a cam cleat, with a double on the boom.  Some folks have converted to mid-boom sheeting with a traveler on the bridge deck.
Yes, any line that has two parts through a block or sheave can be replaced with the mast up by using a messenger line.

skip1930

The only rope on a boat is the one hanging down from the clacker to strike the bell.
Everything else is a line.

skip.

SpeakEasy

Quote from: skip1930 on March 17, 2012, 07:14:38 PM
The only rope on a boat is the one hanging down from the clacker to strike the bell.
Everything else is a line.

skip.


True enough, skip ol' man; but the material they are composed of is still properly referred to as "rope."

-Speak

Davo

Ok, a couple more.  What are these?





I spent the weekend sorting out lines and rigging for mast raising soon, I need to get a windvane and masthead nav lights to install and the PO had a new steaming/deck light that wasn't installed so I'll do that as well.  There actually is a staysail for the inner stay, the roller furling sail looks to be brand new work as far as the conversion to furling from hanks, except a UV strip wasn't added to the sail which, in the Oklahoma sun, will probably only last a few seasons if I actually leave it up all of the time.  I think I should try to sell it and just get a hank on or two.  I don't have much patience for wrestling with the furling gear, especially when raising the mast by myself.

I have the jib and main haylards on although I won't need the jib halyard with the furler setup so I'll rig that up as a topping lift, I added a block and line for a spinnaker halyard up at the mast head crane and I also added a halyard for the staysail where the PO installed the block at the top of the inner stay.  With all of that as well as the lazy jacks the mast is pretty stocked with rigging. 

I noticed that the spreader brackets are a little loose, I haven't taken the spreaders out to check the bolt yet or inspect for any corrosion, but would they normally have some wiggle or should I tighten that bolt when I check it?  My catalina 22 had two bolts (with the upgraded brackets) and didn't wiggle much at the spreaders.  I believe the original brackets actuall used 4 screws and it didn't wiggle at all with those.


Tim Gardner

Well Davo,   You must certainly be very young.  The first photo above is a lowly can opener, used to open tin cans before they had pull tabs.  The second photo is of suddenly painful eye wear.

Regards, TG
Never Be Afraid to Try Something New, Remember Amateurs Built the Ark.  Professionals Built the Titanic (update) and the Titan Submersible.

Davo

Quote from: Tim Gardner on March 19, 2012, 11:27:08 AM
Well Davo,   You must certainly be very young.  The first photo above is a lowly can opener, used to open tin cans before they had pull tabs.  The second photo is of suddenly painful eye wear.

Regards, TG

And here I was thinking it was some fancy line splicing tool or painful pirate torture device!  The rubber bungees are pretty stout, I figured the holes were for some sort of special use but I can't figure out what they would have been used for seeinga s how the hooks are closed on each end mostly (perhaps to try to prevent the painful eye wear part)

:)

Tim Gardner

The bungees may be sail ties.  TG

PS  The can opener could double for a pirate torture device.
Never Be Afraid to Try Something New, Remember Amateurs Built the Ark.  Professionals Built the Titanic (update) and the Titan Submersible.

crazycarl

the rubber items may also be for anchor lines.  the rode is passed through the ring at one end and then loosely coiled around the body of the rubber item and passed through the ring at the other end.  with the anchor set, the boat will move with the wind, tide, waves, and such.  the rubber item allows the rode to act like a spring and "stretch" to absorb any shock created by the movement.


or maybe they are just odd bungees where you supply the hooks.


or....they could be some sort of pirate torture device.

                                                                                                 carl
Oriental, "The Sailing Capitol of North Carolina".

1985 Compac 19/II  "Miss Adventure"
1986 Seidelmann 295  "Sur La Mer"

Bob23

Looks like some kind of line snubber.
Bob23

millsy


Maybe the shock cords are part of a boom-brake device?  Otherwise I dunno...

Chris
C-23 Dolce
Chris
C23
"Dolce"