CP23 Trailer

[Greene]

Anyone know of a dual axle trailer that would work for a 23?  If you know of one just PM me.  I am thinking about picking up an older (damaged) 23 that is available as a spring project.  I don't want to go the flatbed route, because I'll want to sell it with a trailer when I am done.

Thanks,
Mike

[NateD]

There was a Com-Pac dealer at the strictly sail show in Chicago. Rich Hutchings mentioned that the dealer (I want to say he was based out of Madison) had a used CP23 trailer available.

[Greene]

Thanks, I also talked to him at the show.  He wants $2K for that one.

Mike

[skip1930]

Build a cradle for the boat and rent, buy or build a two axle flatbed trailer. Have the yard put the boat into the cradle.

We did this to get this boat to Sturgeon Bay from two states away. Here is the idea and the rig and the boat.

skip.

[Salty19]

How would Greene be able to sell a rented trailer?  This is not a question of getting it one way, but rather a permanent home.

Mike, give champion trailer a call (I believe they are in Port Clinton or Catawba, OH).  Last time I cruised by there were several what appeared to be used trailers sitting around.  They may have one, or know where one is available.  Come to think of it, these trailers may have been "build me one just like this" type trailers since they looked kinda shabby. Not sure, but at least they might be able to help.

[Greene]

Thanks Salty.  I may have to find a pretty nice trailer.  I ran into an '88 that is in our price range that is anything but a fixer upper.  I believe I have a deal with the owner, so a trailer is needed pretty soon.  Didn't expect to find such a nice 23 at this price.

If this deal works out we'll be selling the 19.  Maybe if I have a 23 I could beat you in the 2012 Zig-Zag Around The Lake Race. 

Mike

[newt]

Mike, if I was closer I would just lend you mine. What is this lust for 23's? By the way you guys always talked I thought the 19 had the faster bottom

[Bob23]

Newt:
   I think they just got tired of seeing the transoms of the 23's as they were being passed.
   C'mon, Mike: Spring for a nice trailer! Think about it: If you were going out on a date with Ingrid Bergmen, do you think she'd want to driven around in a Ford Focus? No, she'd want a proper ride, beffitting such a lady. How do you think your 23 is gonna feel? If you want this lady to treat you right, you better keep her living in the manner to which she deserves! Nice trailer, new sails, total wax job so she shines, and gleaming teak. Hmm...I hope you're ready to take this step. This ain't no 19, brother!

bob23

[Greene]

Mike, if I was closer I would just lend you mine. What is this lust for 23's? By the way you guys always talked I thought the 19 had the faster bottom

Newt, B and I seem to spend a lot of nights at anchor and rarely go for just a day sail.  When the weather isn't cooperating we weren't comfortable sitting inside our 19 for any length of time.  If I was a 5' 10" guy it would probably be fine, but that is not the case.  For day sailing I think the 19 is hands down the better boat, unless you have a slip.  We are working our way toward an extended sailing sabbatical and we want to work our way up in boat size.  Still dreaming about a Pacific Seacraft.

No matter how big our boat gets, we will always be slow sailors.

Mike and B

[kickingbug1]

    later mike and b purchase a 54 footer and spend the remainder of their lives sailing to exotic ports

[Greene]

I picked up a nice trailer today about 3 hours from our house.  Build a couple of bunks and it is ready to go.  Thanks for the ideas.


I've searched this site for 23 trailer setup dimensions without any luck.  Does any one have these 3 measurements?

Top of keel support to the center of the bow roller support (vertical)
Center of dual axles to the center of the bow roller (horizontal)
Width between keel guides
Center to center of bunks
Top of keel support to the top of the bunks

Mike

[brackish]

I picked up a nice trailer today about 3 hours from our house.  Build a couple of bunks and it is ready to go.  Thanks for the ideas.


I've searched this site for 23 trailer setup dimensions without any luck.  Does any one have these 3 measurements?

Top of keel support to the center of the bow roller support (vertical)
Center of dual axles to the center of the bow roller (horizontal)
Width between keel guides
Center to center of bunks
Top of keel support to the top of the bunks

Mike

Mike, my trailer is sitting in the back yard with the boat off.  I'll measure tomorrow.  Pouring rain now.

[Greene]

That would be great.  I plan on working on it tomorrow.  No Packers in the Superbowl, so not too interested in watching that.

Mike

[NateD]

Just out of curiosity, how did you find a trailer? It seems like someone here is always trying to track one down.

[brackish]

Ok Here goes:

Top of keel support to the center of the bow roller support (vertical) - 20-5/8" to center,  21-3/4" to the top (support) point.  Note below on this
Center of dual axles to the center of the bow roller (horizontal) - 117-1/4"
the centerline between the two axles to center of the bolt that holds the chock is 142"
The vertical dimension to that same point from the top of the square tube where the post is mounted is 34-3/4
Width between keel guides - 12-3/4" (gives about 3/4" clearance at the widest point on the keel)
Center to center of bunks - 45-3/4"
Top of keel support to the top of the bunks
This last one is variable.  The bunks have a curve.  see picture below.  The center most roller support is 21-1/2" ; the forward most roller is 22" ; the aftermost roller is 23-1/8.  You notice from the picture that the bunks angle in.  All the dimensions are to the outer edge of the bunk which is a 2 x 6.  for the inner edge you would subtract 1-1/8".  The keel rollers are tapered and the support point is on the outside edge so the dimensions come from that aprroximate point

additionally, the bunks on mine actually support only on the middle 75% or so.  there is about a 15" in the very back and 8" in the front that do not make any contact with the hull.  I've thought about jacking up the bunk supports to make the curve more intense, but I'm afraid it would be difficult to crank the boat onto that higher stern bunk area.  Since most of  the weight is on the keel I think that amount of support is fine.

My bow roller is adjustable and that is a good thing.  I've found that at some ramps it helps to lower it until I have the boat cranked all the way to the chock, then raise it to make contact.  It is really only there to help to stop any rocking and so you can see you are centered.

I'll send you a PM with my cell in case you get in the middle of your setup and need something else.

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