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Teak Refinished

Started by Greene, March 22, 2011, 07:52:03 PM

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Greene

Finally wrapping up the teak refinishing on our 19.  The teak was in pretty poor condition, so we removed them from the boat to do a really good job.  We removed everything except the eyebrows as recommended by others on this site.  The pieces were sanded down to good wood and covered with teak oil.  I used 6 layers of Helmsman's Spar Urethane (Satin finish) while sanding between each coat.  I wish the eyebrows were as easy to remove so I could work on them away from the boat.

As long as I was staining and coating the teak, I decided to make a couple of the other items on my project list for this spring.  I used some mahogany to build a drink/binocular/VHF holder for the cockpit.  I planned on mounting it to the front of the gas locker cover, but I think Salty's suggestion to mount it on top of the cover is a winner.  Second I made a line hanger to be attached under the port lazarette lid.  It is a simple board with holes into which ball bungees are inserted.  Each of the 5 bungees will hold one coil of line.  The final piece is a mount for my lunch anchor.  It will be attached inside the same lazarette against the inner wall just below the cover.  Hopefully these organizers will clean up some pretty messy areas of our cockpit and lockers.



The cup holder and line holder are in the back row of the wood items.  The smaller cup holder on the right was a trial run which I didn't really like. 


This pic gives a better view of the good cup holder and the anchor hanger.


Well, on to the next project.

Mike and B
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
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"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

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Bob23

Beautiful, Mike:
   Can I buy one of those beer, er, cup holders? Very nice wormanship.
Bob23

Billy

how are you going to mount the rope and anchor holders w/out the screws pokeing through into the cockpit? And what did you use to cut the holes for the beer, er uh cups? a router?

VERY nice work! and Salty is right about on top not in front of the gas tank. you need the foot room but last I checked I couldn't fit under the tiller.
1983 Com-Pac 19 I hull number 35 -no name-

Greene

Bob n Billy - BEER HOLDER!  Why didn't I think of that?   In my simple mind I had envisioned two Kwik-Trip mugs full of ice and Drambuie, hot coffee or maybe just a good sweet local wine.   Well if I leave the binoculars out of the rack I can fit two cans (no glass on our lakes) of beer in those two holes in the middle (binocular slot) and still have room for the mugs.

I used a hole saw to drill out the four big holes and a Forstner bit to cut out most of the VHF slot.  The router just cleans up the hole and gives it a nice rounded edge. 

I saw the line holder in one of those sailing magazines and they suggested just using a marine adhesive to attach the line holder to the lid.  The anchor holder will also have the adhesive, but I plan on sending two #10 x 2" long SS screws with decorative washers through the fiberglass.  My lazarette has a crack in it about in the middle of the lip on the inner wall.  I needed to reinforce that area anyway so I decided to make use of the repair to add a luxury item.  Hence, one wall stiffener/anchor holder installed.  I am concerned about the starboard lazarette as well.  If you open the lid and lean against the wall it flexes quite easily.  The layup in that area just doesn't seem to be quite stiff enough.  I'll glue the support in place and see if I can get away without the screws, but I'm guessing I will need to add them.

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
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"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Salty19

#4
Looks awesome!  I took the very long route with refinishing but its holding up. Teak oil, teak sealer mixed with cetol, about 4 or 5 coats, sealer mixed with minwax spar varnish, about 7 layers. Lots of sanding and cursing. Did not touch the eyebrows yet..on the list for this year.  Payed extra attention the the tiler which we're not even using anymore.  
It does look more orange than yours..I prefer the color yours are but what's a sailor to do?

P.S.  Did you forget about the bowsprit!?!?
P.S.S.  Great idea on the anchor and line holders!!!
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Greene

#5
Quote from: Salty19 on March 22, 2011, 10:38:46 PM
P.S.  Did you forget about the bowsprit!?!?
P.S.S.  Great idea on the anchor and line holders!!!

AWWWW C'MON SALTY!!!  Here I was feeling really good about a project being checked off the to-do list and you remind me that I forgot about the wood in the bowsprit completely.  Dang it, dang it, dang it.  Maybe I can convince my lovely bride to do that part?  (pause exactly one second) Well I guess not.  The Admiral just said, "Fat Chance!"  

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
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"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

skip1930

Wow! Looky all that wood. If she goes down you'll have lots of flotsam.

skip.

Salty19

Hehehe...well guess we won't say a word about the small gas locker alignment tabs either. Must have just took 'em off the bench before taking the pic, I'm sure.  Just tryin' to help!
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

kickingbug1

   when i see you at the rendezvous, ill give you a few pointers about cussing. i have called the 52 everything but a ford.
oday 14 daysailor, chrysler musketeer cat, chrysler mutineer, com-pac 16-1 "kicknbug" renamed "audrey j", catalina capri 18 "audrey j"

wes

Mike - nice job on that teak. I am doing the same right now, except more so - my teak was in such bad shape I ordered replacements from Hutchins (yes, even the eyebrows). Curious about the pieces like hand rails, companionway hatch board slides, etc. that will need teak plugs (bungs) when re-installed. How do you handle that? Seems like when you insert the plugs and sand them flush you'll have to patch your varnish job. Would love to know your strategy on that.

Also noticed you used Helmsman varnish (Minwax product). I was thinking of doing the same since it's readily available at Home Depot, but was a little worried since I rarely see it mentioned on this site or others as a viable marine product. Have you used it previously, and if so did it hold up well on the exterior teak?

Thanks for sharing -

Wes
"Sophie", 1988 CP 27/2 #74
"Bella", 1988 CP 19/3 #453
Bath, North Carolina

brackish

Beautiful Mike!  I'm also interested in what you plan to do with regard to plugs when you install the components.  I left everything that had a screw plug cover on the boat and finished it in place.  In retrospect that was very difficult and I wished I had removed everything.  However I couldn't quite figure how I would deal with the plugs with a six coat finish schedule, particularly those on the top of handrails where the plugs had to sanded to a radius after installation.  Didn't think the Bristol two part would feather in properly.  Be interested to see what your experience is.

Greene

#11
The Helmsman Urethane worked well on the tiller I made for our 16.  I only put 4 or 5 layers on that and it still looked perfect after 2 years.  I hope it works as well on all these pieces off my 19.  It sure looks good right now.  A wood boat building magazine highly recommended Helmsman Spar Urethane recently, so I'm pretty comfortable with using it.  

Unfortunately the bungs are a problem regardless of what finish we choose to apply.  I plan on purchasing a bag of new plugs from WM.  After gluing them in place (not 3M-5200 -  something that can be removed again someday) I will sand them to shape and then do the 6 layers of Helmsman.  I will just need to rough up the surrounding area with a 220 grit 3M Scotchbrite pad to ensure adhesion.  I still need to sand and apply the same finish to the eyebrows (and other little pieces that Salty so kindly pointed out) so I will just touch the plugs each time I apply a layer to those parts.

I didn't get any work done on the sailboat today.  I goofed off by starting to build my Portuguese Dinghy.  Someone (just looked back and found Newt was to blame) posted a website that had simple to build dinghy plans (free) that I just couldn't resist.  I'll post some pic's soon of that project.

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
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"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Salty19

#12
Wes, when you order new rails and handholds, they will come undrilled and unvarnished from the factory.  Just fit them with SS wood screws from below, screw height with just enough length for full hold yet not pierce the top of the wood.  No plugs required.   Works fine...well, at least that's how I did it. Granted I won't admit they are stronger because they are not thru-bolted, but with the right length screws and correct pilot hole diameter, they will bite the wood just fine.   Sorry, I do not recall the lengths I used...measure and you'll get the right fit.  

Greene...sounds like you have your hands full!   I won't make any other "suggestions", lol  :)  Looking forward to seeing you and Brenda this summer at Carlyle Lake!
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Greene

#13
Quote from: Salty19 on April 03, 2011, 12:08:00 AM
Wes, when you order new rails and handholds, they will come undrilled and unvarnished from the factory.  Just fit them with SS wood screws from below, screw height with just enough length for full hold yet not pierce the top of the wood.  No plugs required.   Works fine...well, at least that's how I did it. Granted I won't admit they are stronger because they are not thru-bolted, but with the right length screws and correct pilot hole diameter, they will bite the wood just fine.   Sorry, I do not recall the lengths I used...measure and you'll get the right fit.  

Greene...sounds like you have your hands full!   I won't make any other "suggestions", lol  :)  Looking forward to seeing you and Brenda this summer at Carlyle Lake!

You bought new handrails - you cheating dog.  I would  think for a daysailor the blind screw would be a great alternative.  If these were blue water babies, I think I would stick with the bolt through.  

We thought we might see you earlier than at the CLR when we heard that Jimmy Buffett was going to be in Wisconsin on June 26.

Mike and B  
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
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"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

skip1930

Through bolts? On teak? You'll bust the wood before the fasteners, either screws or bolts.
Use lots of 3M 5200 Slow Set. Then you'll need no fasteners...

skip.