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New Naca 0014 Foil Rudder for our Com Pac 19

Started by DOUG142, September 11, 2010, 09:08:53 AM

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Bob Condon

Hey Newt,

I think you are looking at tis a bit too simply.

You need to cut the material to size which is probably a portable jig saw.

You need to put steel in the center for strength and manufacture the connection
which will require a router with bits to handle the metal/wood connections

You need clamps to glue this together

I would recommend cutting the profiles in plywood (requires that saw) and then cut the
profile consistently. You could cut the profile with a belt sander and you will go through a lot
of belts in the process.

The belts are $5 each and you will need to go from 23 grit to 60 80 120 180 ... that a lot of belts

Need drill and bits for the holes in the holding structure...

David does not have any tools... if he had a friend with tools, then the price will be redced but
will not have built any skill set up front. Tools are an investment in equipment  and skill over time...

The project is more than just cutting a profile...
Bob Condon
C19 Hull 226

Bob23

To all:
   Here is a brief rundown on my NACA 0012 wood rudder construction project last winter. I started with the stock aluminum blade, cut 8 foil shaped frames (4 per side) of some mahogany scraps, screwed and epoxied them to the blade, filled in between with HD pink foam, shaped the foam to the foil shape using the frames as guides with a Japanese Shinto rasp, made a nose piece of yet more mahogany lumber lying around, and sheathed the entire thing with 3m Okoume plywood. The rudder recieved a bottom and top cap of white oak (nice color contrast) and the entire blade was coated with 4 coats of West System epoxy.
   Using this method, I was able to shift more of the body area forward, thus theoretically reducing the amount of weather helm. I also fabricated a downhaul system for this blade- good thing because it floats!
   Being a carpenter/builder, I already had all the tools I needed so it was all labor, materials of which the Okoume and epoxy was the greatest expense.
   I have photos but I haven't learned to post 'em here. I can email them to anyone interested.
   The construction was much more involved than it seems here, but the result is a wonderful looking wood foiled rudder blade that compliments the well maintained teak on "Koinonia".
Bob23

DOUG142

To Bob23,

I have indeed seen your very beautiful rudder.  A creation to be very proud of. 
Nothing better than creating something with your hands.  GREAT job. 
Side note:  And it works!

Doug142
CP-16 SUMMER ESCAPE, YEAR 1983(SOLD), 1975 SCORPION (fOR sALE), 1983 COM-PAC 19 SWEET DREAMS
http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac156/DOUGN6885/SWEET%20DREAMS%20%20COMPAC%2019/

Billy

Bob,

I would like to see your rudder. My email address is billybbingham@yahoo.com

and if you want I can email you instructions on how to post pictures!!!
1983 Com-Pac 19 I hull number 35 -no name-

Bob23

Billy:
   I send you some photos. If you can email me instructions on how to post photos, you'll have done society a great service..or dis-service depending on who you speak with.
Bob23

Tim Gardner

Well, I have wanted to build a foiled rudder for my 19 for a few years now.  I have read accounts of improved handling, minimization of weather helm and virtual power steering with spittle drool running down my chin and soaking the shirt covering my ample, rotund and fully paid for beer belly top shelf.  I have procrastinated and then I procrastinated some more (the Good Lord knows, good things await the patient).

As most of you know, Steve Brown placed a classified for his IDA rudder, and I found myself wiring the funds to him that very day.  A very good deal made my procrastination pay off!  Steve shipped it to me so fast there was still water clinging to it (made hiding it from the Admiral very easy - almost power steering - like).  I'll have to wait til Sunday to try it on for size - s'posed to rain C&D's all day tomorrow.

Thanks, Steve!!!
Never Be Afraid to Try Something New, Remember Amateurs Built the Ark.  Professionals Built the Titanic (update) and the Titan Submersible.

Bob23

Iv'e told myself for years I'm gonna give up procrastinating as soon as I can get around to it!`
Congrats on the rudder...you will love it.
Bob23

Salty19

Quote from: Tim Gardner on April 15, 2011, 05:30:24 PM
with spittle drool running down my chin and soaking the shirt covering my ample, rotund and fully paid for beer belly top shelf.

Surely you've ordered the optional spittle drool collector from IDA? Just plumb the hoses to the holding tank and you're good.  Can't stain those hawaiian shirts!
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Tim Gardner

Salty - Naw, I just let my goatee get a little longer.  The latent heat of evaporation helps cool my chin. Bob, I told you that good things come to those that wait.

I'll write up a trip report post the addafoiltome operation.

tg
Never Be Afraid to Try Something New, Remember Amateurs Built the Ark.  Professionals Built the Titanic (update) and the Titan Submersible.

Bob23

   Indeed, good things do come to those who wait but "procrastination is the thief of time". Somehow, you have managed to cheat this law. Sometimes, it's not easy to disguish between the two.
   I waited for about 2 years before I found my 23. Had I jumped the gun, I might have ended up with a lesser boat. Maybe she just waited for me.
   Wipe that drool off your face...you look silly!
Bob23
(ps: I plumbed the drool hoses directly overboard. Easier that way.)

Tim Gardner

NO, this looks silly:



Taken 10 years ago in Bah Hahbah.

TG
Never Be Afraid to Try Something New, Remember Amateurs Built the Ark.  Professionals Built the Titanic (update) and the Titan Submersible.

Bob23

This confirms my suspicions...we only let the most sophisticated sailors aboard here!
Love the hat...
Bob23