Just for fun a hypothetical question.

[Greene]

Bob23,

Go to latsandatts.com and click on Free Videos/TV, then Boat Reviews.  The Flicka would be a nice small craft to go onto big water, but the Dana 24 is a go anywhere and do everything design.

Mike

[Bob23]

I went there right after I read your post on the Dana. Did you see the Compac 35 review? Very sweet. But Bob's voice is starting to sound like a used car salesmen! Sorry, Bob...just my opinion.
Bob23
(ps: Mike: I looked under my sofa...didn't even find the 38 cents that you found. No change at all, let alone the $50K.)

[Greene]

Let me know if you find that loose change in your cushions.  We'll pool together and bid on the beautiful 1990 Dana 24 for sale on eBay right now.  Lots of nice pics to drool over.

[rsahlender]

If I couldn't have my Compac 16 I would hold out for a Montgomery 17. Since I am new at this and won't be able to sail my 16 until spring I can only go by what I've read and see. The lines of the M17 are similar to the C16 in my eye, and the lapstrake hull reminds me of some of the old wood boats mored at the end of our road on Long Beach Island NJ back in the 60's some of which I was lucky enough to sail on but have long forgot any make and models... by what I've read the M17 has a similar weight / ballast ratio and while a few hundred pounds heavier than a C16 the M17 has slightly larger sail area which I would expect to help. Again just a newbie's opinion but the eye likes what the eye likes...

[curtisv]

Before I bought my CP23 I saw a nice new Cabo Rico 47 for sale for $750,000.  That was very late 1990s.  A number of years later I joked that I should have bought it because it would have held its value better than the high tech stocks that I would have sold to buy it.

Then again, it didn't come with a trailer so who would want that.

Curtis

ps - this thread keeps coming back.  some threads never die.

[rwdsr]

I hated giving up my 16, but I love having my family with me on my little sailing jaunts, so I had to move up and I sure love the catalina in terms of space.  Still trying to get used to all the things that it takes to sail a bigger boat.

Bob D

[HideAway]

We have one steadfast rule on HideAway.  Before we decide to sell her we have to sail her.  If we still feel like selling when we return to the dock then we will sell her.  Not that we haven t been tempted - HideAway sat in a 30 foot slip for years as we looked for a bigger boat - It s just that everytime we sail we realize how perfect HideAway is for how we like to sail and where we like to go.  We ve had her for 14 years now and I really don t think we could stand to be without her in our lives.  Matt

[Bob23]

   That's exactly how I feel about my 23, Matt. Every once and a while, I'm tempted to upsize or downsize but then I go for a sail and again remember how perfect "Koinonia" really is. It's small enough for me cast off her lines for a sunset sail after work or to cruise for days at a time (something I have yet to do). I convinced with a few modifications and the right weather, she'd make a good coastal cruiser.
   I just wish I was 4 feet tall so I could have standing headroom!
Bob23

[brackish]

Matt, Bob, I can relate.  I tend to get attached to my boats and have trouble selling them.  I had my last boat for 16 years and would probably still have it but my partner wanted to move on and I was not in a position to buy him out at the time. 

The 23 has grown on me quickly.  I like to sail it, I like to look at it, and it has become a reading lounge, a calming refuge, when sailing is not possible.

It has also motivated me to stay in good shape, very limber, so that I can live without standing headroom.

For a whole bag of reasons, at this stage of my life it is the right boat for me.

[bmiller]

If I could choose any boat it would be a custom design by Bob Perry.
Realisticly maybe the Nordic 40.
More realisticly an IP35 to keep the wife happy.
Absolute realism, keep sailing Pooka.

[HideAway]

Hey Bob23--

Remember there is only about 3 feet of the cabin where you can't stand up    Matt

[curtisv]

Standing headroom is nice.  Some of the older small cruisers like the Bristol 24 had standing headroom and impressive comfort ratios and capsize ratios for such a small boat.

In the compac line the CP27 is the more the coastal cruising model than the CP23.  I've been tempted to go look for one and upsize.  The CP27 doesn't have the capsize screening ratio of some other boats, an important consideration the more you go offshore, but its real tough to find a boat that could be cruised with the shoal draft that the CP27 has and still sails quite well, including to windward.

I may not upgrade until I retire (or retire again, long story).  I'm not sure when I'll retire (not anytime soon) but if my health holds up, I am definitely going to look for an offshore capable boat and do some cruising.  For now I'm having trouble finding the time to do proper maintenance and get out sailing so no trading up in the near future.

Whatever I end up with at retirement time I'd like it to be able to handle just about any condition and be small enough to single hand.  Even though I expect to have The Admiral aboard most of the time I want to have a boat that one person can handle.  I may do what a friend had done on his Krogen 38.  After his wife got sea sick in rough weather crossing the Gulf Stream and was reluctant to do it again, he did the passage across the Gulf Stream to the Bahamas "with the guys" and picked up the wives at the airport at Nassua.  I may need to be accommodating in the same way.

Curtis

[rip]

Hmmm, is this a chance to post a pic of my first cruiser? Been retired a while Curtis, and this is us in the late 90's in Foxy's wooden boat regatta near the end of a 20+ month cruise in the Islands. Wonderful boat, but too much draft and size for the Hudson river. Wasn't fast and didn't point high, but as you can see she could handle 30 knots of breeze with just a little of the rail wet. This pic was taken by a pro covering the regatta and we found it by accident years after it was taken. But if my mate didn't get seasick every time we did a transit I might still be out there someplace. Now ya got me dreaming....

[curtisv]

Isn't this whole "hypothetical question" thread a bit about dreaming out loud?

Curtis

[mrb]

OK, now that the air is clear,  being the oldie that I am I would like an Atkins little bear.  Perfect for puttering around the bayous and back waterways of the low country plus some of the waterways of the great circle route. 

Now I feel much better

Good and fair winds to all
mrb