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NACA-0014 Rudder Modification Underway

Started by Greene, February 01, 2010, 09:31:18 PM

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Bob23

   Last night I fiberglassed the rudder, only the bottom 8 inches or so for a little extra protection from impacts. It came out ok, just a few Calvin hairs sticking up. You know, Calvin and Hobbes? Calvin's hair?
   Tonight I sand 'em down, put on a few patches over Calvin's hair, and let it be till tomorrow. Weather around here is looking good for a Force 5 launching but I should work on Koinonia on Saturday instead of playing.
   But, maybe I'm just dreaming all this. Maybe it's not real at all!
Bob23
(ps: You feverish-pace guys make me sick! Really makes us procrastinating genius' look bad.)
(pss: I'm really looking forward to meeting you guys. If I come out, I'm bringin' this damn rudder so you 23 ers' can try it out. )
(psssss: You don't really make me sick; instead you provide great inspiration. On the wall of my office is a sign which reads: "Procrastination is the thief of time." A while back I was talking to a wonderful neighbor, now deceased, who passed that tidbit of wisdom on to me. As he uttered it, I had one of those Ah-ha moments. Made a sign out of it. I've made progress on battling with my procrastination. I'd be further along, but I can't seem to get around to it!)

DOUG142

Guys,
Bob23 is in fact making a naca 0014 foiled rudder.  I know because I have seen TOP Secrect documents (pics) verifying said such item.

It works great on cp-16's, Soon to know about Compac 19's, and yes Bob's will be the first Compac 23 to sport the fantastic 0014.
Bob,
These guys are near dying to see the rudder.  How about it?  Ya gonna show them? Or make em wait till the 2010 rendezvous at carlyle Lake?

Looking pretty good!!!!

Still not in the water,
doug142
CP-16 SUMMER ESCAPE, YEAR 1983(SOLD), 1975 SCORPION (fOR sALE), 1983 COM-PAC 19 SWEET DREAMS
http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac156/DOUGN6885/SWEET%20DREAMS%20%20COMPAC%2019/

rwdsr

Hey Salty,
Think you could trace that foil out on a piece of poster board and then fold it up and send it to me?
1978 AMF Sunfish, Sold, 1978 CP16 #592, "Sprite" - Catalina 22 "Joyce Marie"http://picasaweb.google.com/rwdsr53/Sailboats#

Salty19

Bob,

Consider it done.  Send me your address, you have my email.

And do keep in mind this is a CP19 oriented blade.  Not sure if the CP16 version needs to be any smaller but in a week or so I'll see my old boat so will let you know.
"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Bob23

Doug:
  I'm gonna make 'em wait!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!
Bob23

Greene

Quote from: Salty19 on April 27, 2010, 09:40:23 PM
Bob,

Consider it done.  Send me your address, you have my email.

And do keep in mind this is a CP19 oriented blade.  Not sure if the CP16 version needs to be any smaller but in a week or so I'll see my old boat so will let you know.

I used the same template (that Doug142 so kindly sent me) on both the 16 and 19 rudders.  I'm not sure if all 19's have the same size, but it is the same width (12") as the 16.  The 19's is thicker and longer though.   Note:  The template we used allowed for an additional 1" in width (total of 13") so we could add a bullnose to the rudder for protection.  The extra length on the leading edge should also give us a more balanced rudder.  i.e. "powersteering"
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

newt

I think I will swipe bob's design once he has perfected it. :))

Greene

Newt,

I hope you are a very, very, very patient man. 

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Bob23

We will re-define patience! Once this thing is done, I plan on building another this summer. Works on paper, anyway. I'll put together a step-by-step photo journal of the construction of the  "Beast" for anyone foolish enough to build one.
Bob23 

Greene

First off I have to apologize to Bob23.  My wife often says I am slow on the uptake and apparently I did it again.  Bob23 was sending off "secret" photos of his long-laboring project to a few of us.  As friends we should have realized this was a cry for help in posting the pictures for him.  (We all know about Bob23's photo posting issues.)  Well I am going to help out our friend (and not force him to beg for help publicly) by posting a photo of the "beast" as Bob23 so lovingly refers to his new rudder.

Sorry for not catching on earlier Bob23,  I'll pay closer attention from here on in.


















Hehehehehehehehehehehe!





'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

rwdsr

LOL, Mike you ain't right as they say down here.........
1978 AMF Sunfish, Sold, 1978 CP16 #592, "Sprite" - Catalina 22 "Joyce Marie"http://picasaweb.google.com/rwdsr53/Sailboats#

Bob23

Mike:
   I thought you promised not to post this secret photo of my rudder. I am so shocked. Well, now at least everyone can see the high level of craftmanship that I have maintained in this rudder modification. The astute observer will notice that there are 3, count 'em-3 pieces of blue tape holding the rudder to it's shaft instead of the usual 2. Much stronger. And the graphics- well, I must admit that I'm not an artist so I contracted with the worlds leading marine rudder graphic artist- Mr. Wenda HeckamIgonnabedone who works alone in small secluded shop in the frozen mountains of the Sahara.  I'm sure you'll recognize the name.
   Seriously, thank you for picking up on my cries for help. It is true that I have not posted any pictures here at the site and I feel much better now that one of my Compac brothers recognized my weakness and brought it to light. And to think of the money I've wasted on my therapist. He assured me it was ok and that I'd get over it, that I was completely normal. Yeah, he's probably a powerboater.
   But there you see it folks, with your very eyes you can see that my rudder project is almost done and is not, I repeat, not a farce as some have alluded it to be. It fact I plan on working on it today. I'm not sure I like the blue tape...might paint it brown to match the sail cover and dodger. And I need to do the dreaded rudder alignment process, which I sure that veteran rudder builder Mr. Mike Greene is  aware of. In this process, one takes the rudder under construction and at noon, points it to the sun, and attempts a noon shot witht the sextant thus aligning it with the celestial body in question. If this is done correctely, it makes it easier for the rudder to maintain a true norht heading while running with the wind in the northern hemisphere.
   Bob23...you guys are killing me!

DOUG142

MIKE, BOB23, AND ALL,

As the instigator of most of this NACA 0014 rudder stuff I must say that you guys have taken this to a level way beyond my expertise. 
HOWEVER, I thought i had mentioned that the thicker edge goes to the front and the trailing thinner edge is at the rear. 
Also, also you better have permision to use that Com-pac symbol on items that are going to be sold.  Not sure about the number 23.

Tis looking  good.
Doug 142
CP-16 SUMMER ESCAPE, YEAR 1983(SOLD), 1975 SCORPION (fOR sALE), 1983 COM-PAC 19 SWEET DREAMS
http://s895.photobucket.com/albums/ac156/DOUGN6885/SWEET%20DREAMS%20%20COMPAC%2019/

Bob23

THICKER EDGE IN FRONT?!?! GREAT TIME TO TELL ME!! OH WELL, I usually sail backwards anyway.
Bob23...smelling of epoxy!

Greene

While not up to BOB23's standards, my CP19 rudder is primed and ready for paint.





Mike

Hey Bob23,  you think anyone actually thought that was the real "Beast"?
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com