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Tiller Tamer

Started by tmolik, January 27, 2010, 10:38:24 AM

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Shawn

"and actually hasn't been a power consuming problem for me."

Yup, the nav lights (non-LED) use more power then the autopilot.

Shawn

Greene

Quote from: kchunk on January 29, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
Ah...yes, Phil. Everyone's dream. A Raymarine ST1000+ Tiller Autopilot & S100 Wireless Autopilot Remote.

 

And for $766.98 you can make your dream come true!  ;)

--Greg


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Bob23

I wonder how long that remote would last on a sailboat? Does it float? Is is saltwater proof? Heck, I still misplace my tv remotes...the last thing I want on my yacht is a dang remote! But I do like the Autohelm..a friend has one and besides being a bit noisy, it does the job. But it's not as noisy as my wife is sometimes. I didn't just say that, did I?
Bob23

Craig Weis

#18
kchunk your right there. -->"Sometimes I think you just like the sight of your own green text..." Thanks I had a chuckle on that one. I do talk too much and I do relish laying down those sometime outrageous and knee jerk reactions. It's just fun.

skip. No offence taken.

kchunk

Skip, deep down under all that ice and snow, and that walrus mustache, you're a good man. And you take a jab just as well as you dole them out. Sure it was a cheap shot...but I have to admit, I had a couple chuckles over it myself.  :D

Bob23

Brothers, only family can get away with this stuff! I also like the change in color and green happens to be my favorite!
Bob23

newt

I have one of those thingys I will pull it out of my boat and sell it for ONLY 500 dolla. To tell you the truth I don't use it. Niles- I do walk to the front of my CP-23  and scan the harbor with my binocs, as well as put the fenders out and get a bite to eat before I get into the marina. I am telling you guys- sheet to tiller is what you are looking for...:)

curtisv

One of the benefits of the tiller tamer or cansail that you may be missing is how it helps out when fast tacking single handed.  Few people regularly tack up a narrow passage at all let alone single handed.  Most fire up the outboard when headed to windward in a narrows.

What the tiller tamer provides is the ability to jam the tiller over to leaward and attend to the sheets, then bring the tiller over center again and either trim sails or repeat the process immediately if in a really tight spot.

As an autopilot or self-steering device the tiller tamer, cansail, or lashed tiller leave a lot to be desired.  It works well to windward but the tiller tamer slips if the wind and therefore weather helm is strong.  In a strong wind or off the wind a bit lashing the tiller is better since it won't slip.  This doesn't work well further off the wind, such as a beam reach and even less so downwind.  I don't have a good solution for this on my CP23.

Curtis

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jamato323

Good conversation, as usual I get a lot from you guys no matter the color of your.....type face. I installed a Simrad 10 last fall and really luv it as I'm almost always out there alone with my SOSpenders. Beam reach, ice-tea, sun bouncing off Sanura's tanbark and feet up watching Gasparilla Pass come into view. What more Lord?
Paul Scribner
Between Com-pacs
Cape Haze Florida
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."
William Arthur Ward
All sold: ComPac16"Bell", ComPacSuncat "Gatito", ComPacSuncat "Sanura", ComPac25 "Aloha Kai", ComPac19 "Lady in Red"

Bob23

Curtis:
   I love tacking my 23 in narrow spaces...how are we gonna build confidence and skills? I also love sailing off of and up to my mooring, unassited my Miss Nissan. Although she does have her place on my yacht.
Newt: Do you use sheet to tiller? Can you post or email a photo? "Inquiring minds want to know."
Bob23

newt

Bob- are you on Sailfar.net? I did a tutorial in the "Tips" section, but yes I believe a properly set up sheet to tiller is a better autopilot than any big ones which you pay thousands of dollars for. It's forte downwind in light air- which a monitor can't keep on course- because basically your jib is your sensing vane.
My little compac I find sails differently with me on the bow as apposed to the stern. The Tiller stops that are talked about in this thread I find take me off course if I go out to put the fenders away. I can keep a course with a auto tiller, but it uses too much juice for my liking. Sheet to tiller is the only thing that seems to work for me.

Bob23

   I am on Sailfar but haven't visited it for a long time. I've been too busy making trouble here! I'll check it out, Newt.
   I've been interested in self steering ever since I rigged my Seapearl to steer a course. Of course, with that light displacement boat, the conditions had to be right but the mizzen sail added a lot more control.
   Hmm...I wonder if a 23 can be set up as a yawl rig? I suppose the main would have to be moved forward a bit or a bigger jib added...just me thinking again.
Bob23

Potcake boy

Quote from: jamato on February 16, 2010, 04:22:17 PM
Good conversation, as usual I get a lot from you guys no matter the color of your.....type face. I installed a Simrad 10 last fall and really luv it as I'm almost always out there alone with my SOSpenders. Beam reach, ice-tea, sun bouncing off Sanura's tanbark and feet up watching Gasparilla Pass come into view. What more Lord?


Paul
Where do you sail out of?
Ron
Ron
Pilot House 23 - GladRags
Punta Gorda Florida

A mouse around the house - but much hotter on the water

newt

I agree that a mizzen helps simplify the process, but your 23 will still do a great job self steering!  My project this winter is to add a drifter for mine, and perhaps a Bimini.

jamato323



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Paul
Where do you sail out of?
Ron
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I sail out of Placida, FL half way between Tampa & Ft. Myers but all over with my trailer.
Paul Scribner
Between Com-pacs
Cape Haze Florida
"The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails."
William Arthur Ward
All sold: ComPac16"Bell", ComPacSuncat "Gatito", ComPacSuncat "Sanura", ComPac25 "Aloha Kai", ComPac19 "Lady in Red"