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CP 19 XL for sale on Craigslist for $15K

Started by Salty19, January 20, 2010, 03:34:35 PM

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Salty19

http://easternshore.craigslist.org/boa/1560603845.html

Is it me or does $15K sound unbelievably high for what is probably a 1998 or 1999 CP19XL??  3 hull numbers newer than mine which is a '98.
Mine was considerably cheaper and aside from a little oxidation and teak finish peeling, it's mint.   the only one I saw go for this much had thousands of dollars of upgrades (pretty much fully outfitted).  And sold by a broker which drives the price up.

"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603

Bob23


botelerr


Potcake boy

Well these boats are priceless to us owner's but for all others there is VISA.
If you consider that it is common practice to expect the seller to lower his price to complete the sale - as no one has ever offered more than the asking price - then obviously the seller would start at the upper end of the possible spectrum.
Is there no one out there that is aware of the cost of these boats when they were new.  My 2002 sold for nearly $30,000.00 new as I have the original sales contract.  So why wouldn't it be worth half that much today if in good condition and updated?
I think some are accustomed to buying 30 year old 16s for next to nothing which is remarkable in that these boats have held up as well as they have.
If the boat has new sails, new motor, current electronics, good trailer, clean interior, and no damage, then it is practically good as new.
So there you have it, a prelude to me offering my 19 for sale, so you can start talking me down.

Ron

P.S. I will have the teak shined up pretty soon too.
Ron
Pilot House 23 - GladRags
Punta Gorda Florida

A mouse around the house - but much hotter on the water

Bob23

I suppose there are two ways of looking at this: One from the buyers perspective, one from the sellers. I was happy to buy my 23 for next to nothing but I'd admit to being the first one to point out how much they cost now, in the event I was trying to sell. I guess in that light, 15k is ok, but I'm not a buyer.
Bob23

Greene

#5
On the other hand this looks like too low an asking price.

http://nh.craigslist.org/boa/1636357503.html

I've been searching (purely for research only dear) the net for 19's and have seen anything from $3200 to $15,000.  I don't think there is any way to say what is a fair price as a generalization.  Each boat has been  loved, maintained and adorned differently.  Just have to find the one that talks to you and pay the man.

On the other hand I'll soon have to set a price on our 16 (just a hypothetical honey) and 16's vary even worse than 19's in price.  I see $950 up to $4000 prices and how do you guess where yours fits in? 

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

botelerr

I think the extras on a lower cost 19 can make a big difference. I bought my 1984 with few extras, original sails, for under $5k with trailer and 4hp motor. When I saw the craigslist one here in St Louis for $5,500 with extras it seemed to be in line.. although I have not seen it ..Just went to the river to check my 19 and report to the club on flood conditions.. We're near flood but our marina is looking high and dry..RBB

Craig Weis

Being cheap I feel that any Cp-19 in good usuable shape is worth about $5 to $6 k on a trailer.

skip.

Greene

Quote from: skip on March 14, 2010, 11:46:23 AM
Being cheap I feel that any Cp-19 in good usuable shape is worth about $5 to $6 k on a trailer.

skip.


You drive a hard bargain Skip, but I'll be up tomorrow with the $6000 for my new 19 C & J.  Can I keep the name?

HEE HEE HEE!

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Craig Weis

#9
OK Mikey, for $6000 you can keep the name. But not the boat she's not for sale.
I'm not ready to 'let go the tiller' yet.
-----> "You'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands!!" <-------

Who said that? I'll give you a hint...Let's look~see into the vault of this house for clews.






Charlston Heston, former president of the National Rifle Association.

Is this cool or what? I want the Flame Thrower.

skip.

Potcake boy

Mike
I bought a new 16 with trailer (no motor) for $4,000.00 in 1980.  But consider along with depreciation the effect of inflation over the past 30 years.  A few of the traditional models have been updated and renamed for marketing reasons as well as production cost.
I guess it's safe to say that no matter what you pay, if you're happy with your boat, then all is well.

Ron
Ron
Pilot House 23 - GladRags
Punta Gorda Florida

A mouse around the house - but much hotter on the water

kickingbug1

       every time i see a nice 19 for sail like the one in st louis i get a little three foot itis. but i have measured and think getting it in the garage might be a problem plus the extra time and effort to rig. as a daysailor who likes to try different lakes i think i will stay with my little 16. mike, maybe when you come down in july you can look this guy up.
oday 14 daysailor, chrysler musketeer cat, chrysler mutineer, com-pac 16-1 "kicknbug" renamed "audrey j", catalina capri 18 "audrey j"

kickingbug1

  rbb, carlyle lake is in good shape so far come sail over here.
oday 14 daysailor, chrysler musketeer cat, chrysler mutineer, com-pac 16-1 "kicknbug" renamed "audrey j", catalina capri 18 "audrey j"

Greene

Quote from: kickingbug1 on March 15, 2010, 12:00:30 PM
       every time i see a nice 19 for sail like the one in st louis i get a little three foot itis. but i have measured and think getting it in the garage might be a problem plus the extra time and effort to rig. as a daysailor who likes to try different lakes i think i will stay with my little 16. mike, maybe when you come down in july you can look this guy up.

That is why I started building a 2 1/2 car detached garage last fall with 8' wide x 9' high doors.  I made it 28' deep just for a 19'.   I have it ready for windows and siding, so Brenda is running out of excuses and starting to waiver a little on the timetable for finding the 19 footer.   She said it needs to have a blue hull, might have to paint whatever I buy.  (I make sure she sees lots of pictures of pretty newer ones.) I have a few more items that need to be checked off my to-do list and a couple more toys to sell off to make room.   For me the hardest part will be posting a For Sale sign on Puppy Luff.   

Mike
'84 CP-16 (sold) - '88 CP-19II (sold) - '88 Com-Pac 23/3 (sold)
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/greene2108/


"I'm just one bad decision away from a really good time."

http://wrinklesinoursails.blogspot.com

Salty19

Greene-Good luck in your search!    The garage should be the perfect size.  I store mine in a 24' long barn.  Barely fits with less than 1" to spare and that's with removing the rudder assembly and motor mount board (with performance trailer).
The barn door is 8'6" (appx) high and the boat also barely fits heightwise.


"Island Time" 1998 Com-pac 19XL # 603