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[wk]

Hello everyone. I have sailed a sunfish and flying scott along with a few power boats. I am interested in finding the weight ( including trailer) for the 23 and under Com Pac boats. My car is rated for 2700 lbs. The company literature lists displacement, which is not the weight of the boat on land.
Thanks for any information
wk

[wes]

Among the traditional CP models you'll probably be limited to the Com-Pac 16. The 19 weighs 2000 lb not including trailer, so it will easily top your 2700 lb limit once you factor in trailer, outboard motor and beer. I initially towed my 19 with a Toyota Tacoma rated at 3500 lbs towing capacity, and experienced some hairy moments at highway speeds, when braking hard, and when pulling the boat out at the ramp. Quickly upgraded to a Honda truck with 5000 lb capacity, which was much more comfortable.

The 23 is even heavier. These are strong, heavy boats for their size, really mini-cruisers. They require a vehicle with significant towing capacity.

Wes

[Finbar Beagle]

WK,

Welcome to the site.  One of the admirals, probably from NJ, will Be along shortly to collect the initiation and dues fees.

I had similar tow weight restriction, and recently decided on a Picnic Cat.  I drive a Subaru Outback. 
When I looked deeper. The Subaru could tow 2700 lbs, but car may not be heavy enough to stop this weight and they recommended trailer brakes. 

For the 23, I saw an estimate by Greene of 5,000 pounds with trailer and stuff.

So my first target was a 16, but I decided as I keep a 19 in slip ( too heavy for me to tow), it did not make sense.  I wanted easiest trailable and will most likely only use for short sals.  If I had to choose only 1, the 16 or legacy would have been my solution.

Regards,
Brian

[Yamaha33410]

what kind of car do you have? where will you tow the boat to? I.E. types of roads and distance

[rogerschwake]

  There is one more Com-Pac that fits your needs, the Sun Cat. It weighs in at 1,500 pounds and on a trailer with sailing gear I'm guessing would be under 2'500 pounds. I have never weighed Sun Cat but hardly now it back there behind my V6 short bed Chevrolet. It's easy to launch, fast to set up and take down, and big enough to sail on most waters. You can also spend a few nights on board if you care to. As you can tell I'm a very satisfied owner that is very happy with my boat. There a little expensive buy well worth the money.

[wk]

Thanks for the input. I would be using a Subaru Outback as a tow vehicle. It looked like I might be able to squeeze a 17 foot but that would be the limit. Living at Daytona I would probably spend most of my time on the Halifax River.
Thanks again for your thoughts
wk

[Tom L.]

Another vote for the Sun Cat. I use to sail on the West Coast of Florida. We did a lot of ICW sailing. Sometimes with very narrow channels which required constant tacking. The Cat Boat rig is really a good choice for this type of sailing. Tacking simply requires the skipper to steer the boat. No messy head sail to deal with. We had a sounder that we would set the alarm at three feet to alert us we were getting in shallow stuff, usually way outside the designated channel. Then we simple steered onto the other tack at about 2 feet and on to the other side of the channel.

Usually the wind didn't blow straight down the channel so we would have one short tack followed by a long tack. On a reach the cat boat positively flies. Most boats equivalent to it in length can't keep up.

Beating to windward is not the catboats best point of sail but it is very easy to sail. The secret is to ease the main and don't try and point too high.

Finally as a trailer sailor it is unmatched. Ramp to sails up... 15 minutes. We rigged a block and tackle with a forward facing strut to raise and lower the mast. The tail was brought back to the cockpit thru a Garhauer halyard stopper allowing the mast to be raised or lowered from the cockpit on land or in the water. Com-Pack has that as an option.

The boat, trailer, O.B. and other equipment probably tops at at 2500 #. I towed with a two wheel drive Edge. Never a problem.

Tom L.

[alsantini]

Let me put in a word for the Eclipse and/or Legacy.  The Eclipse weighs in at 1800 lbs unloaded so mine is probably 3000 on the trailer.  Many of my short drives towing Off the Wind are done with my 2.4L Equinox.  I keep the engine RPM between 2,000 and 3,000 and generally around 55 max Speed.  To launch in some of my popular sites I can be on farm type roads and can loaf along.  For long distance (I take her to Florida during the winter) I use an Acadia rated at 5400 lbs so no problem running even at 65 mph.  I know you might be thinking SunCat and it is a great boat.  I have sailed on one for 2 winters prior to bringing OtW down.  But, if you are a sloop kind of guy, look at the Legacy.  Easy to set up, a great sailing boat with a small cabin.  I would guess fully loaded on a trailer it would be within your vehicle weight limits.  The Legacy and the Eclipse share a mast raising system that is fantastic.  It takes me 20 minutes from pulling up to launching.  The Com Pac group of boats have the mastender system and you can't go wrong with any of them.  I would be happy to discuss the Eclipse anytime.  PM me if interested.  Sail On,  Al