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Rigging the lines and Pulleys

Started by BossHogg, April 21, 2006, 03:21:19 PM

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multimedia_smith

i JUST SCANNED THE MANUAL FOR YOU (AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO MAY NEED IT).... HERE'S THE LINK:
DIAGRAM

http://www.com-pacowners.com/4images/details.php?image_id=649

ALSO A PIC OF MY RIG


http://www.com-pacowners.com/4images/details.php?image_id=307

HOPE THIS HELPS...

CHEERS

DALE

DanN

So if the mainsheet comes back through the fairlead and the camcleat, then what's the point of the block?    Just for the becket to attach the mainsheet?

I've been running the mainsheet through the block to the fairlead and camcleat, but that's been pretty unsatisfactory because it doesn't flow smoothly.

TroyVB

The mainsheet should come back through the block with the becket (where it started) then through the fairlead and then the cam. 

The block's purpose is to turn the line 90 degrees so that the fairlead does not have the force exerted on it.  Fairleads should not be used to change direction with the kind of force that is applied by the boom.

I realize that in light winds it is not as smooth as it could be.  This is do to the size of the sail and the amount of purchase that the CP16 has on the boom.  Easy to adjust but the friction of the 1/4 inch line overcomes the force that the boom exerts in light winds.

How's that for clear as mud?

DanN

Take a look at the diagram.   The sheet doesn't go through the block on its way to the fairlead.   It's the same way in my manual.   

I do lead it through the block and it tends to jam.   I'm guessing that my problem is that my line is significantly thicker than 1/4 inch.   But 1/4 inch sounds like it would be pretty tough on the hands.


I've been trying out different arrangements that leave more room at the becket so the sheet doesn't friction clutch itself.     When I let out the sheet to spill a gust, I'm pretty interested in having the boom respond immediately without having to give it a good hard shove.

TroyVB

I looked at the diagram again, it is the same in my manual also.  I believe however that the sheet has to make the turn through the block.  I have trouble because the blocks on the transom tend to twist the mainsheet between the end of the boom and the blocks.  This creates friction that hinders movement in light air.

I believe that 1/4 inch Sta-set is what is recommended on the site for the mainsheet.  What size line are you using?  Do you think there is enough clearance?  The standard blocks on Sanctuary could probably handle 5/16, but any heavier would translate into a jam. 

I think that there is enough purchase so that 1/4 is not to tough on the hands, but it is a little more difficult to get a comfortable grip on the line.  My jibsheets are 5/16 and I would like them to be a little heavier.

Just my 2 cents.

Gil Weiss

I use 5/16th on both the main and jib. Sta set I believe, and it works fine. Easier to hold than 1/4 . . . my 2 cents!

multimedia_smith

I just looked at the images I put up and the Manual doesn't even show the swivel cam that most of us use (and which works great as opposed to the illustration from '88).  The pic of my rig makes it difficult to see the cam in front of the swivel... so I put together another view... along with some variations that others have done... I think it was Tom Brackin... very cool.
anyway here's the link to the pic:

http://www.com-pacowners.com/4images/details.php?image_id=650

I use the thinner line as it runs better and I usually wear gloves just to keep from getting sun burned (I usually wear a long sleeve white shirt for the same reason)... so the thinner line doesn't bother me...

Went out sailing on Lake Ponchartrain yesterday afternoon till sunset... we're having the positive result of being on the west side of the storm... it's drawing cool dry air from the north.  Sorry for the people on the coast though.

Gil Weiss

Re the storm Ernesto, I experienced it twice! I flew to Florida Tuesday afternoon for business. I weathered the storm in Orlando then I flew back to Philly yesterday afternoon in time to experience the storm again here in Pennsylvania. It was actually worse up here.

Hopefully it is going to clear out and we can sail Sunday and monday

Ralph Erickson

Hi, Gil!  Speaking of Ernesto, I ventured down to the marina today to check on "Patricia Lee", and I'm sure glad I did.  The wind was blowing a steady 20 to 30 knots from the lake straight into the marina, and whitecapped waves of 1 to 2 feet were hitting the docks and boats.  All the boats were being tossed around like toys - never saw it like that.  The boat next to mine had broken loose at her starboard stern line, and she was crashing into my starboard  stern with each wave!  I re-tied her up as good as I could, but her lines were shot so I improvised.   Luckily, "Patricia Lee" wasn't damaged at all, as far as I could see, and neither was my neighbors boat.  "Patricia Lee"'s lines were fine and holding well - didn't have to make any adjustments.  Noticed some other boats lines had broken or come un done and were crashing into other boats, so spent a bit trying to tie them up as best I could.  Checked in on "Steppin Up", and she was rolling like the dickens, but her lines were holding well and she was riding out the storm well.  No boat next to you, so you're fortunate!  It was quite a sight, and makes me promise myself to check on her during any future storms.  I don't understand why folks tie their boats up with substandard, old lines, but you'll have this.  Anyway, perhaps I'll see you out on the lake tomorrow or Monday!

Ralph
CP19II #347
"Patricia Lee"
www.sailaway.smugmug.com/boats

Gil Weiss

Hi Ralph,

Great to hear from you . . . I always am concerned about storms. Thank you so much for checking on my boat. We were up there yesterday and had a really nice sail. There were signs of the storm all around, but Steppin' Up was fine.  I have sailed every weekend since early May, but two due to weather. Today promises to be another fine day. We go up there around 3 PM or so.

I retied two boats yesterday on D dock has their stern lines broke loose. I can't believe how some of the boaters up there don't seem to understand or care about how to secure their boat in a slip. The guy who has the space next to me is one of those folks who uses old line and doesn't tie up properly. He doesn't use his boat either. This year he never put it in as you know? Anyway, for several years I retied his boat with proper line. Never heard a peep from him?

I always hate the thought of the end of the season being near . . . Regards, Gil


multimedia_smith

You can find a lot of stuff by "searching" the site..
I posted these not too long ago on a similar thread.
It's fun to poke around in the archives... you can learn a lot!

In the meantime... here's a pic I scanned from the manual although it doesn't show the preferred method of the cam cleat swivel.

http://www.com-pacowners.com/4images/details.php?image_id=649

what the heck... here's a pic of that too... enjoy...
Dale

http://www.com-pacowners.com/4images/details.php?image_id=650

saillover

I have resized my main sheet hardware to use a larger line than is needed for strength because of the feel in my hand.  This was kind of expensive but the ergonomics are worth it.