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New Ida Rudder install

Started by fried fish, August 22, 2015, 05:52:58 PM

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fried fish

Hi guys,
I recently installed the foiled Ida rudder on our Compac 23, "Go Be Do.
So far it is great.
We had a great day sailing out into the ocean out past the Cape Fear in NC.
Works as I read described. Our boat handles with less weather helm. I wish it was even less.
I get an upper body workout during a sailing outing. We do have lots of currents where we sail.
I have one concern. The rudder seems to kick up due to various pressures.
I think if it remained straight down, handling would be optimal.
I noticed during install, an extra smaller hole near pivot point. I am wondering if anyone is experiencing the drift up issue during sailing.
I have thoughts of introducing a removable pin to hold rudder straight down during sailing.
This gin and tonic tastes mighty fine after a great sail.
Any ideas on the pin idea?
Fred

Craig

Some of the folks here have installed "breakable" pins. I used golf tees on our Suncat, others have used plastic bolts,etc. Sometimes the friction lock is just not enough and a small amount of "kickup" can make a big difference. On the Suncat the "shear" pressure of the rudder held the tee in place.
Craig, Horizon Cat "Kailani"  Punta Gorda, FL

hockeyfool

Unfortunately the complete Ida sail/Ruddercraft foil rudder assemble has the rudder lifting /locking mechanism, But - com-pac yacht company sells a rudder lifting/lower rod out of stainless steel, where it bolts on rudder stock
   with a drilled hole to fit a bolt. , then you still have to tweak it to stay put form side-to-side movement at sea...many ways to do that; velcro strap, or weld/fabricate a tab on left/right of the lifting rod.
         Look up previous threads under search, then rudder lifting rod

brackish

This is what worked for me.  Solved all the many nuisance kickups from lateral slide off.

http://cpyoa.geekworkshosting.com/forum/index.php?topic=7267.0

skip1930

I gave up on the sheer pin idea.
The water is five foot higher this year and the rudder is now bolted down.

IF the rudder ever kicks up with the engine spinning the prop, that will chew up the rudder during a turn to port.
Be careful.

Because the rudder is balanced with a little bit under the transom so the tiller 'feel' will be light.

skip.


fried fish

Isn't the rudder depth in down position about the same depth as the keel?
If so we'll run aground first.
I like the idea of a removeable pin so I can leave the rudder out of the salt water while in her slip.
I'm going to get my drill out.....,
Fred