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Ground tackle (SYSTEM) for 23

Started by cw021382, April 21, 2015, 12:15:47 AM

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Shawn

"I now wonder if the shank height on the mantus 35lb would fit.  "

Can't answer that regarding the fuller (I had hank ons) but if the loop on the anchor roller is not high enough it is easy to make a taller one. I did that on Serenity. The Raya's shank is tall as it is part of how it rights itself without a hoop.



Shawn

cw021382

#16
I have spoken with greg of mantus, and Brad of CMP (Rocna), and they have convinced me to go with either a rocna 10 (22lb) or a mantus 25 (25lb).  Either of these anchors is rated for more than double the displacement of the cp23 in 50knot winds.  I went with the Mantus 25.  Here are my reasons.

1.  Both anchors are made in China, but at least Mantus is a U.S. based company (Kemah, Tx.)  CMP is Canadian.  
2.  The mantus is 3 lbs heavier, and 5" wider at the roll bar.  I think the extra width does put more pressure on the tip.
3.  Warranty.  Greg said they would not only replace a bent or broken anchor, but would pay the shipping.  Can't get better than that.  
4.  Price:  The mantus 25 thru sailor sams cost 206.00 with free shipping.  The rocna 10 was 300 thru defender or WM.
5.  Greg was courteous, and admitted in all but hard or weed filled bottoms that the rocna and mantus were =.  
6.  If I get a bent shank, fluke, or rollbar, Mantus will send me out a replacement without having to send in the anchor.  

-Chris                                          

cw021382

The mantus 25 was 218.50 thru sailor sams, but when I went to checkout they took off an additional 12.50.  I also called them to make sure their anchors were new style with the HT shanks, which they are.  Greg told me Sailor Sams moves more mantus anchors than anyone else, even though they are a new player.  I think he said it was started by the guy who began the shrink wrapping of boats.  Anyway, I was impressed with their prices so I also ordered my new vhf from them.  I have my handheld, but the 23 had no fixed vhf when I got it.  I ordered an Icom M324g.  The list of things to install is building up. 

-Chris

Shawn

Chris,

I think you will find the Mantus is a great anchor. Lots of positive reviews of it (and pictures of it setting) on Cruiserforums. Last time I looked some even were using it without the rollbar and it was still setting fine.

Being able to replace the shank quickly/easily is pretty cool too.

Shawn

skip1930

#19
The U.S. Navy favors Danforth's and so skippy here has an 8 lb steel Danforth pinned on the bow roller of his CP-19.
Plus a smaller, lighter 'lunch anchor' I slip over the stern and cleat off using a 75 foot line and 5 foot of chain.

Size up or down according to boat's length and weight.

Plows are for the back of my John Deere.
It's amusing that sailors buy a plow, but the material is aluminum ... so does weight not mean a thing?

skip.

Shawn

The navy also has a constant anchor watch. They are great anchors but don't handle tide shifts and resets as well as some others as they can get fouled in your rode.

"It's amusing that sailors buy a plow, but the material is aluminum ... so does weight not mean a thing?"

Actually, these aren't plow anchors, Delta's are plows. A plow has a convex shape, these are concave and designed to burying deeply. With any burying anchor it isn't the weight that is important, it is how well it sets/buries itself and how much surface area it has. It is the connection with the ground that holds you, not the weight.

Case in point the Coast Guard uses Danforth type anchors that are made by Fortress. Fortress anchors are made out of aluminum and have a very high surface area for their weight.

Shawn