New Legacy, Your Thoughts on it?

[skip1930]

Re: New to form
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I started your post here under 'Legacy'.

HI to all:

First time on com-pac Owners Association Site.
I am interested in the 2011 Com-pac Legacy & looking for information. I guess about everything, trailering, set up at dock, problems, sea worthiness, boat balance, comfort. well I said everything before i order a new boat.
Interesting sight, was nice to find it.

Thanks in advance  Sailorchuck

Well I sat on a new Legacy at the All Sail Boat Show at Navy Pier Chicago a few years back.
My first impression was no deck between the cabin and the hull to walk on. Or nearly no deck.

Not that I go fwd a lot on my CP-19 but sill a deck is nice to have.

I would bolt down the kick-up rudder and make it a permanent 'down' rudder. Too much fooling around once it pops up. I put a snow blower sheer bolt in mine.

Other then that I kind of like it All be  it a wee bit more tender then a CP-19, she lean a little bit more and may need to be sailed that way for optimum speed.
The CP-19...the more up and down the faster she'll go. Different designs.

Like any Com-Pac it will be well built and provide many sailing trips that are fun, stable, safe, and stoic. I posted a factory pamphlet a while back-showing the features of the Legacy.

What exactly do you like about the Legacy?

skip.

[Salty19]

Thanks for starting a new post for Jer,  Skip.

Jer welcome.  Sounds like you are new to the sailing world.  Don't worry, we've all been there.  Learning curve is steep.  I've never sailed one, but they look like very easy to rig and very stable for it's size.  Hutchins the makers of Com-pacs build them strong and seaworthy, more so than other brands and with quality fiberglassing and fittings. There are several Com-pacs here from the 70's going strong. All of their boats are pretty stable for what they are.  The factory support is tremendous.  You can and do literally talk to the owners when calling for help, parts, whatever. Look at their website for videos and search youtube for compac legacy, there are several videos there to look at. I imagine trailering is a piece of cake with anything worthy of a towing rating of 1500lbs (conservative driving that is), but then again I wouldn't want to take it over the mountains without at least a V6.  Biggest problem is making sure you can get back up the ramp and having enough chassis and brakes to keep you safe.  For example if my Miata could tow one legally, it doesn't mean it can pull the boat out and stop the rig.  Like any small trailer you have to keep the speeds down as those tires could be spinning twice as fast as your vehicle.  Sounds like you've never towed a boat..it can be strange pulling and (GULP) backing up a trailer without experience, but in time it will be second nature. The legacys are designed to setup and tear down easily so once you've done it a few times and get "the system" down pat.  The Suncat looks easier yet to setup. 

Comfort stuff, same as any other boat--Cockpit cushions are nice. Either generic cushions or get the real ones that fit from Hutchins.  And a bimini if you're in the hot sun or sensitive to it.  Roller furlers are a nice convenience..

I'm sure the legacy owners here will chime in with better advice but the videos should give you a lot.

[kahpho]

Welcome to our little corner of the web Jer.

I will second what Salty19 said. I've been completely happy with my Legacy. I trailer with a full size PU and hardly notice the boat and trailer are there. I would imagine any midsized V6 powered vehicle with adequate brakes would not have any trouble. Smaller 4 cylinder vehicles I won't venture an opinion but there are probably some that would work. I sail solo and set up is pretty easy by myself. Afloat it's a well behaved boat. It feels solid and much larger then it's size would indicate due to the weight in the keel. Stepping from the dock to the gunwale it gives a polite dip but not much more. No need for a big step to the cockpit to get your weight centered like some boats this size.

I suggest you read through the posts in this Legacy section if you haven't already. Also Small Craft Advisor magazine did a review of the Legacy in issue #51, May/June 2008 available in back issue. It's a great little boat. If you have any specific questions I'd be glad to try to answer. If I can't I'm sure others here can.

mel

[Jer.]

 Thank you all:
 I have towed a boat quite a bit for about 3 yrs ago I was racing tunnel boats. Lots of travel. I had a 3/4 ton diesel for that but now have a dodge Magnum with the Hemmy engine so pulling should not be a problem. I also had a 26 ft S2 about 20 yrs ago but it was on a small lake in Missouri so no big water just sort of floted around. I am 75 now & thought I would try to get back into sailing. I race a US12 radio controlled boat. Lots of fun their.
Love this site & all the info on it, thanks again.
O yes as far as my work went (I really never did work) I was a pilot for TWA.
Jer.

[gmerrill]

jer
  I have own a legacy for close to 4 years now.  It is a very stable boat underway and will take high winds.  Unfortunately high winds bring waves and then it gets little rough.  This boat is ideal for lakes and similiar bodys of water.  Ideal sailing conditions 8 mph to 15 mph winds. I clock mine at 5.3 mph with about 10 mph wind.  Had a 4hp yamaha on the back also. Very simple operation and easy to sail. Easy to setup as well.  If you are going to use on a lake with little or no current, i would strongly consider an electric trolling motor.  These boats can easily be sailed right up to the dock and a gas engine with little or no use is just a hassle with this new ethonal gas.  The people at compac are great too.  The owner usually answers the phone and their response is always prompt.  I saw one for sale brand new for 11,500  trailor and motor.  some guy was running a special i believe it was on sailboatowners.com

Keep in touch  gregsauto@bellsouth.net
greg

ps thinking about selling my soon to move up to a larger boat, but not right now

[kahpho]

thinking about selling my soon to move up to a larger boat, but not right now

I've actually moved from larger boats (a 27' then a 22') to the Legacy and have been quite satisfied. Glad I did it. I have been getting more quality time sailing with the Legacy. It also enables my wanderlust to try other sailing venues with relative ease.

Greg, I'm curious what does your 4hp yamaha weigh? Any water back up through the drain into the cockpit? I have a Honda 2. It has enough push but I'd like something with an external tank and FNR for some future trips I dream of.

Jer. I found a pdf version of the Small Craft Legacy review I could send you if you're interested.

mel

[gmerrill]

MEL,

   I don't know the weight.  But I can tote and lift it up with relative ease.  so probaly 80lbs at most.  It's a great motor but this ethonal gas just has a terrible effect on it.  The motor left down in the water will put a drag on the boat and hinder it's ability to manuever.  Cocked out of the water you can really feel the difference.  Again the motor is great, there are numerous post about motor and the ethonal.  the consensus is seafoam or stabil and keep your gas fresh and out of the sun.  The legacy is a great boat and when sailed in the proper environment it is a pleasure.

Greg

[John J]

The Yahama 4 hp long shaft weighs 51 lbs.