Anyone with a storm jib....

[Shawn]

Anyone have a storm jib for their 23? If so do you know roughly how many square feet it is and what the dimensions are?

The marine consignment place near my dock had a storm jib (heavier cloth, lots of reinforcements) among their many sails. The sail itself looks unused, the brass hanks are still completely shiny (no green from salt water) and there is no wear on the sail though it does have a little staining from something the sail bag was against in storage.

They just had the luff (186") and foot (86") measurements for it but based on those I think it is around 55 square feet. I will remeasure it with the leech to get a more accurate calculation.

I think it is going to be close enough for the 23 but wanted to see how it would compare to others that have storm jibs. Since I can't reef my hanked on 110 jib this would be handy for heavier air days.

Thanks,

Shawn

[Craig Weis]

Ask Charley. He made one for Capatin Rank on Wind Rover

www.DorsalSailsandCanvas.com

skip.

[Shawn]

Just measured it myself...

luff is 196", foot is 86", leech is 170". Per the mid-atlantic sail area calculator that comes out to 50 square feet.

Shawn

[Tim Gardner]

You CAN have your jib and reef it too.  My working jib has slab reefing points just like my main, about one third up from the foot.  Works just fine.   tg

[bob lamb]

I'm looking for the foot measurement of a cp23 jib (standard jib)..anyone know what that might be?

Bob

[Shawn]

Bob,

Which 23?

A 23/3 (bowsprit) 115 jib is showing the foot as being 12.76 feet.

For a 23/1 (no bowsprit) the 115 jib is showing the foot as being 11.17 feet.

Numbers from: http://www.sailritesails.com/

Shawn

[Shawn]

Tim,

Thanks for the info. Not worth spending the money to get that added to my 18 year old jib.

I ended up with the storm jib. The price seemed to good to pass up. It is built far stronger then my standard jib and would take a lot more wind.

Shawn

[bob lamb]

Thanks Shawn for the info...I'm cutting down an old genoa to use for a jib.

Bob

[Thunderchild]

What is slab reefing?  I tried a storm jib (don't know the size...) but I could't get my boat to tack with such a small sail.  Maybe I need the slab reef.

[Tim Gardner]

It's a hank-on jib with cringles added for reefing ( new Tack & Clew points & reefing point ties ).  This weekend, I'll take a photo of the sail and the measurements of the reefing cringles.

TG

[Shawn]

I tried a storm jib (don't know the size...) but I could't get my boat to tack with such a small sail.  Maybe I need the slab reef.

How much wind were you in?

Did you try backwinding the sail?

Shawn

[Bob23]

Thunder:
   I've also experienced tacking problems in high winds. I had my jib with CDI roller furler reduced and 1 reef in my main. With all that reduced sail, I had no problems with a controlled gybe instead of tacking to change directions. Watch out for your head on the boom!
  I should add that once I added a foiled rudder, that pretty much eliminated the tacking problems.
Bob23

[Shawn]

Update on storm jib....

Went out today with my 3 and 7 year old, wife and kids grandmother with me but I was still basically single handed sailing.

There was a small craft advisory out so before we left the dock I put on the storm jib and reefed the main. When we got out the wind was 20+ with stronger gusts. Since I had never done it before I just raised the storm jib. This worked out quite a bit better then I expected it to. We were doing about 4-4.5 knots the whole time and were very comfortable with minimal heeling, less then 10 degrees. Kids were having a blast riding over the wake of other boats.

First attempt at tacking and I ended up having to fall off to try again. The second time I back winded the jib and that pulled the bow through the tack easily. Because the storm jib is so small I was still able to hand hold the sheet in that wind. I ran the sheet run from the block to the cleat on the windward side to make it easier to adjust. This ran the line tight up and over the coaming through. I have a pair or larger blocks I might use to replace the track mounted blocks to see if the line would run across free.

Shawn