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CP 19 - performance trailer bearings

Started by Potcake boy, September 30, 2008, 10:01:48 AM

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Potcake boy

Hi to all,
A quick question to the knowledgable group of trailer sailors out there - what wheel bearings are used in the single axle Performance trailer supplied with the CP19? What other parts should I carry along for a bearing failure in the middle of nowhere on a Sunday night with a hurricane bearing down on my location and the police only hours from closing all the roads?
Well you know it is good to be prepared, as a friend once told me "It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it" I never really grasped the enormity of that statement till the "700Billion Bailout" came along. I'd hate to see the same thing happen to sailing. Maybe we are immune to that level of catastrophe because we stick to sound basics.
I am hopefully doing a trailer trip to the Florida Keys in January, and spare bearings will guarantee that I don't have a failure.
If you sail like I do, even bad luck will refuse to come aboard,
Ron
Ron
Pilot House 23 - GladRags
Punta Gorda Florida

A mouse around the house - but much hotter on the water

kchunk

Ron, have you repacked your bearings? If not, it's a very simple, though dirty job. Once you've done it, you'll have most of the answers to your questions.

As for the bearing size, I have a Performance trailer too, but it's for a 23. My spindles are tapered so the bearings are two different sizes (1-3/8" x 1-1/16"). Yours may be different though. One way to be 100% sure is to remove the hub and take your bearings to a trailer store and match them up. Also, Wal-Mart sells bearings (only 1" I think) as well as trailer wheels and tires (Don't go to the tire shop for trailer tires. The tire guys don't even know they sell trailer tire/wheel assemblies in the trailer section.)

For an emergency, late Sunday night, hurricane bearing down, cops closing the bridge bearing failure I'd get a complete hub assembly. I bought one. Its a complete hub with new bearing, seals, lug nuts, bearings packed, ready go and sealed in rigid plastic packaging. Costs about $50, and it's just a part of my trailer "go-box" including wheel chocks, a jack, lug wrench, grease gun and a few other things I haven't needed yet.

--Greg

kchunk

Where are you going to be trailering from? We had a trip to Marathon last July and man I'm still suffering from that vacation! We had that good of a time.

Any idea where you'll be going yet? It won't take much to sell me on the idea of a Florida Keys Com-Pac Convergence this January. Depending where you're looking to go, I have a few places I can recommend (and one I wouldn't recommend so much).

--Greg

Gary

Hello Greg:

I really appreciate your step by step instructions.   Will give it a try this weekend, perhaps merely trying to tighten it just a bit first.  This boat had sat for approximately 2 years before I purchased it.  I insured that the broker had the packing loosened a bit before the boat was moved for the survey and to be hauled for inspection, etc.  The diesel had been winterized and with that the packing would have normally been tightened a bit.   Bringing the boat from Grasonville, MD. to Regent Point Marinas, Topping, VA. was basically motorsailing.   This totaled approximately 16 hours run time.   Just the normal drip rate as far as we could ascertain and nothing was too warm in the shaft path.  As far as replacing the packing, I'll hopefully be able to wait until the spring haulout for new bottom paint.

While the area one needs to work in to get to the packing certainly isn't large, it does have more room than most other boats I viewed when searching for a boat.   The engine access is fairly good and while the shaft area is tight (at least for my 65 year old bones, I was able to double clamp the rubber sleeve last weekend in the space of 15 minutes or so.   Getting out afterwards (my body took a "set") was more difficult than installing the clamps.

Thanks again for taking the time to detail the process required.   All the individuals on this site seem to be most helpful, friendly and just plain good folk.    A lot like the pilot community I recently left.  A pleasure to be rejoining this sailing community.

                                                                                           Best regards,

                                                                                                Gary

Potcake boy

Greg,
You are so right about carrying a spare hub. That's exactly what I will do. Are they universal and how do I identify the correct replacement.
Yes, I will be doing the pack before leaving on this trip, the hubs do have bearing savers. I remember my first boat (CP16) that didn't have the bearing savers, and I found that Amzoil bearing grease would not emulsify when launching. Eventually Bearing Buddies appeared on the market, and of course they are a must.
Thanks
Ron
Ron
Pilot House 23 - GladRags
Punta Gorda Florida

A mouse around the house - but much hotter on the water

Potcake boy

Greg,
I live in Punta Gorda Fl. on the West Coast. Mapquest says it's 325 miles to Key West. I plan on the better part of a day for travel.
Plans are in the early stages yet, I have two weeks Monday to Friday with the weekend in between - 12 days, and can set it any time in January.
I am a SCUBA diver and Looe Key is great diving, but I'd also love to sail to the Dry Tortugas, so it may be a two phase trip with a short trailering in between.
I would love to be involved in a Com Pac get together. Should we survey the forum for any other interested sailors? Key West would be good, and with the sail to the Dry Tortugas, I could do the diving as phase two on the way back with anyone else that may care to do the same.
I am not familiar with possible launch ares, and vehicle parking in Key West, although there is a nice camp ground with cabins and boat slips in the area of Looe Key.
One of the biggest challenge seems to be finding a place to park veh and trailer for multiple days, without having to tap the "700BillionBailout" to finance it.
Where would you be trailering from, and what would you be trailering?

I heard someone on the list express some concern about taking a small boat i.e. CP16 or Suncat across waters like between Key West and Dry Tortugas, but I have read accounts of people taking very small boats there with no problem. January is not the time of year that you get major storms in the Keys, though there may be occasional days with a bunch of wind. So I would say yes to anyone interested in doing a trip with whatever you are sailing. If we put together a small event, you would be in good company if assistance would be required.

If you wish to contact me directly about this possible get together you can email me : roneweber(AT)comcast(Dot)net

Looking forward to making it happen,

Ron
Ron
Pilot House 23 - GladRags
Punta Gorda Florida

A mouse around the house - but much hotter on the water

kchunk

A replacement hub assembly will be sized by your spindle size (bearing size) and the lug pattern of your wheel. More than likely, you will find the one you need here: http://shop.easternmarine.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.catalog&categoryID=187

I'm not affiliated with easternmarine.com but I'm a customer and would recommend them.

kchunk

Ron, I sent you an email this morning...