What size jib should I order for a CP16 with CDI Furler?

[rchiare1]

My CP-16 CB has the full masthead rig, and it came with a CDI Roller Furler. The existing sail is really shot, and I knew I'd have to replace it when I bought the boat.
Before I order a new sail, I'd appreciate any comments or suggestions as to the size, and the weight of cloth that will work best.

I sail single handed on inland lakes.

Any recommendations, are welcome.

Bob

[idouglas]

Bob:

While my CP16 does not have roller furler, I would go with a 155% genoa.  The great thing about a roller furler is that you can always roll it in as a reef and create the size foresail you want/need.  Why not give yourself the max flexibility from 155% to none at all?

idouglas

[rchiare1]

Thanks, that is sort of what I thought.
155% seems that size of choice in a fabric between 3 to 6ozs. I was a bit concerned with so mauch material getting buncrhed up on the roller.
To me half the reason for have a furler is the varitey of szie jibs that are available to suit the conditions of the moment.
The second half is not having to go up to the bow and leave the tiller while under way.

[DanN]

Can I hijack this thread slightly?    I just ordered a CDI FF1 furler and want to order a 150% Genoa for it. 
I have the dimensions of the old jib, but should I specify a shorter luff to accommodate the roller?  How much?  (Yes, I'll read the CDI instructions, but I figure someone who has done it would know for sure.)

Any feelings about weight for a genoa?
Fxsails seems to have decent prices.  The difference in price between their "offshore" and "onshore" headsails is minimal -- one is 4.9 oz, the other is 5.53 oz.    Would these weights be too heavy for light air days?

Finally, the square footage of the 155% Genoa is computed as 50 sq ft.   That seems low for a Genoa -- that's pretty much the square footage of the 100% jib, isn't it?

[rchiare1]

Dan
I have a CDI furler and I can tell you that the luff needs to be less to accomadate the drum at the bottom and the swivel at the top. Just a rough estimate, but I'd say around 12" less.
Bob

[idouglas]

Dan:

I have a great hank on 155% genoa that I bought from National Sail Supply.  The quality and price cannot be beat at $205.  The specs (taken from the company that cuts Hutchins sails  - Super Sails in Ft. Lauderdale) are:  Luff - 4.39m (14.42 ft), Leech - 4m (13.13 ft), Foot - 2.92m (9.59 ft).  Square footage for the sail is 62 sq ft.  I went with a lighter 3 oz dacron for light air sailing and could not be happier with the choice.   

Contact Dirk Sharland at National Sail Supply (Rolly Tasker Sails, Florida.)

idouglas

[DanN]

Dan:

I have a great hank on 155% genoa that I bought from National Sail Supply.  The quality and price cannot be beat at $205.  The specs (taken from the company that cuts Hutchins sails  - Super Sails in Ft. Lauderdale) are:  Luff - 4.39m (14.42 ft), Leech - 4m (13.13 ft), Foot - 2.92m (9.59 ft).  Square footage for the sail is 62 sq ft.  I went with a lighter 3 oz dacron for light air sailing and could not be happier with the choice.   

Contact Dirk Sharland at National Sail Supply (Rolly Tasker Sails, Florida.)

idouglas

Yeah, I think the dollar doesn't go as far in Thailand now as it did when you had your sail made.   My quote for a 150% Genoa (admittedly with luff tape, sunbrella, and foam) was about twice that.

[rchiare1]

idouglas,
Good advice. I've used National Sail supply and will be using them again for my genoa. I agree that Dirk is easy to work with and the sails are the best quality at a reasonable price that I could find.

Because I'm using the CDI and it will be my only foresail I am a bit concerned about the lighter weight.3oz. I think the 5oz is heavier than it needs to be for me.  But then I sail on an inland lake and do not ever intent to be sailing in heavy weather, sometimes though plans go a miss when sailing.  I'll be guided by Dirk's suggestions.

My one concern  is about the luff.  My boat has a full masthead rig and the haulyard goes to the top. My measurement of the luff from the top CDI Swivel to the Bottom of the CDI Drum is 16' 5".
and I think I need to make an adjustment to allow for a bit of streching and adjustment to apply tension, so I am coming up with just about the same Luff as ahank on 7/8ths rig. Is your boat a masthead or 7/8s rig?
The foot is right on and if I'm not mistaken the leach is whatever is necessary to make the 55% of the triangle.

I'll probably place an order on Monday.

Bob

[idouglas]

Bob:

My rig is 7/8th.    I would still go with the the lighter material. Better shape and easier to furl.  Good luck with the new sail.

DanN.

Yah, it has been a rough year for the dollar around the world.  I bought my genoa a year ago.

idouglas

[rchiare1]

I ordered a new suit of sails from National Sail Supply. Dirk was very helpful in getting the details worked out (My boat is non standard with the Z-Spar mast and boom).
A new main and 110% roller furling jib came to about $500.
I'll report back in a month or so, as to how they fit but the price can't be beat. <a href="http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm39/RobertBlaize/SoLo/?action=view&current=000_0211.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm39/RobertBlaize/SoLo/000_0211.jpg" border="0" alt="Com-Pac"></a>

[idouglas]

I hope you are as pleased with the products from National Sail Supply as I have been.  And Dirk is very easy to work with.

idouglas