New Legacy

[rbh1515]

Com-Pac is coming out with new "Legacy Sport"
Rob

[BradS]

Gerry said they were announcing it at the end of this month.

[rbh1515]

Should be a nice little boat

[rbh1515]

Check out the pics on FB of the new Legacy...very nice!
Rob

[slode]

Looks like a sweet little day sailor with plenty of room for 4.  I wonder if the ruddercraft kick up rudder, and cockpit speakers will be standard equipment.

[Vectordirector]

Oh man, I want one.  I'm wondering if any of you engineering types can look at the new mast raising system on those pictures and figure out how to modify say an older less pricey one to the same?  It seems to be the red line tied around the cleat below the tiny furler drum.  It must pull the already attached at the base mast up somehow without a gin pole.  It appears to be an adjustable forestay?  Very interesting....


Vectordirector

[slode]

It looks like a very similar mast raising setup as the Sunday Cat.  I would assume there is a gin pole that is installed for raising and taken out when the mast is all the way, or almost up.  Otherwise there wouldn't be the mechanical advantage needed to get it started.  I would bet you could modify a standard Legacy accordingly.  And it would be nice to have a fueler.  I'd be hesitant to let a cleated rope hold the forestay tension, so I'd want to see how that is set and secured to keep things properly tight.

[slode]

More data and pics are now on the website.  Details of the mast raising system & furler included.  This looks like the absolute perfect day sailor for someone who wants a sloop. 

[Renae]

I like it!  I didn't see a list price.  Is it up?

[Salty19]

I really like this boat!  Can see having one as a traveling daysailer during retirement here in a couple of years.  Might look into getting one.

[captronr]

I like the looks and have found I don't much need all the cabin space on my Eclipse. However, being retired, the sticker shock might bring me to my knees.

Ron

[bruce]

I agree, if I was looking for an small, open-cockpit, easily-trailered, sloop for daysailing this looks great.

I don't think there's a gin pole in play. The hinge is set low at the cockpit sole, with a nice channel to support the mast laterally as it's raised. I think the plan is to walk the mast up until the running headstay/furler has leverage.

2:1 purchase at the bow sprit, then the line runs back on the centerline, into the cabin, to a block attached to the mast channel molded in the cockpit bulkhead. Then it runs to port to a second block mounted on the forward cabin bulkhead, and back to the cockpit through the bezel of a clear deck plate. Looks like the line is secured to a horn cleat on top of the cabin.

I'm guilty of favoring a turning block over a simple fairlead when a fairlead would be perfectly fine, but it looks like the turning blocks in the cabin needlessly complicate things. The line could be run from the block at the bow sprit to a cleat in the cockpit without any significant deflection. When I look closer at the photo with the cabin blocks I think I see a third sheave between the other two. Not sure how that is installed, or what its purpose is. And the last thing that has me confused is why install the deck plate? Yes, being clear, it brings a little light into the cabin, but the blocks can be accessed from the cabin hatch for running the line initially, and any infrequent maintenance that might be required. It suggests that you'd want access to the cabin blocks easily from the cockpit, but why? Maybe they're using a ratchet block that you might want to turn off. Any ideas? Not being critical, just curious.

[Roland of Macatawa]

Bruce,

I second your questions of curiosity.
To me too, it looks needlessly complicated.
Perhaps a view from an additional direction would be clarifying.

To me, the third middle sheave appears to be part of the right-most block, a fiddleblock.
Used just to guide the line around the companion turning sheaves.

As I see it:
That little block network provides no further mechanical advantage,
only a little unnecessary added friction.
There is no relative motion to trade for force,
because the blocks are anchored at both the left and the right.

A better picture or schematic would help clarify our understanding.

Regards, Roland

[slode]

Just a guess here, but what if the blocks inside the cabin provide the final tensioning for the headstay.  The aft block inside the cabin may not be attached to a fixed eyestrap, maybe there is a line or over center lever or some other adjustment on that end.  So you raise the mast with the 2:1 purchase on the steamhead, cleat off the line, then tension it with the 4:1 purchase (looks like it could be two fiddle blocks) inside the cabin.  Hence the access port. 

[bruce]

I know what you're saying, I think I can make out a fourth sheave as well! A higher purchase like that means a lot of line, or travel of a lever, why do it in the cabin through a little port?

When I look again, to me, that looks like a eye strap mounted vertically to the left of the blocks. But, bottom line, there has to be a reason for the blocks.