Head sail advice

[jamato323]

Just got the headsails (110% jib and 165% LP) out of Lady in Red's locker and am contemplating a F2 CDI furler to reduce trips forward while underway. Both have brass hanks and would need to be adapted (sunscreen etc). Need advice on which (if either) to use? Thanks.

[Potcake boy]

Paul,

Tough call, but consider that a big genoa does not provide a good shape when partially furled. It will be very deep at a time when you need to de-power. I sailed a 19 on Charlotte Harbor for several years and had her set up with a furling jib and free flying gennaker. I found it to be a suitable combination in the varied conditions of our local weather. The jib could be reefed a bit without loosing shape and the gennaker was very nice to have in a light air situation. I think it was the best compromise, and I never had any complaints with the setup. I could pole the gennaker out for a downwind run, or sail a close reach to windward and anything in between.

[wes]

Totally depends on wind conditions in your area. If you are a lake sailor I'd go with the big one; I used a 150 on a CDI furler and loved it for lakes. If you sail on coastal water where winds are higher, I'd go with the 110.

By the way, are you sure the big one is a 165? That's just enormous. Don't think I've seen anything larger than a 150 on a CP19.

Wes

[brackish]

Agree with both Ron and Wes, particularly the local conditions suggesting the choice.  Depending on the condition of the two sails and the conversion cost you might consider converting both.  And seeing if foam panels can be added to the big one to make it reef a little better. 

On my 23 I already had a 110 on the furler when I got the boat.  I bought a new 135 with foam luff and find that is good for most conditions where I sail.  I change out the sail seasonally, putting the 110 on for winter and early spring when the winds are consistently high, then the 135 the rest of the year.  It only takes about thirty minutes to change them out. I also bought an asymmetrical spinnaker with dousing sock (a dream for single handling) for those light air conditions.

If both sails are in poor shape, I wouldn't spend the money for conversion, just invest in a new sail in the  135 - 150 range with foam luff panels for at least a little reef capacity.

[deisher6]

Hey Jamato:
Good advice by all, especially to consider the sail condition before investing more money in conversion.

On the other hand I gave away the furler on our C-27 and have accumulated 4 jibs.  Generally if I want the wind to increase all that I have to do is hank on the largest and soon the boat will be overpowered!

I admire the ease of roller furling, but like the set of hank ons.  So will continue to hank on jibs until I cannot hobble up to the foredeck any longer.

regards charlie

[jamato323]

Many thanks all for typically good advice. Both sails are in excellent condition having been rehabbed by Sail Care. I contacted Atlantic Sails up in Sarasota and will bring both up there for a consult. Good to be back among Com Pac folks.

[jamato323]

Met with sailmaker Thursday and, after examining both sales, he thought my best bet was a conversion of the 110% so that's what I'm going with. Thanks again for advice.

[Craig Weis]

The original factory JOHNSON SAIL on my CP-19 is marked '155' and rolls up on a Harken '0-0' furler.

Craig Weis

Jamato what a Cool name for a boat painted red. 'Lady In Red'
Reminds me of a song, and a woman I knew.
https://youtu.be/te9IWhXJvQo

Best Sailing Is Between Two Squalls

That's the 155 lapper and the standard main. I often wondered why the main was never cut to reach the end of the boom.