Net tonnage of a CP 23?

[Blown Away]

Does anyone know the net tonnage of COM-PAC 23's built in 84, or if they  meet Coast Guard tonnage/size requirements to be documented vessels? Thanks

[HeaveToo]

They are a bit small to document.  You have to do State registration.

[Potcake boy]

Unless you have a purpose of sailing to foreign ports, documentation is pointless, as you will have to pay some form of usage tax in the state of primary usage regardless of where or how your vessel is registered or documented. There is at least one state that does not levy some kind of tax on pleasure vessels, that I know of, and that is Delaware. Primary use is generally defined as six months or more of time spent in the state's waters as an operable vessel.

Of course, understanding your desire to use documentation might help provide a complete answer for your situation.

For more information about the purpose and process, you can visit the following web site:   https://www.uscg.mil/nvdc/

[Blown Away]

Thanks guys for your input! In past years I've owned two documented sailing vessels, and at present owne one state registered CP-16, and I'm in the process of purchasing a CP-23 to keep in the Florida panhandle for summers with my grandkids. My home state does assess a one-time use tax regardless if a vessel is registered or documented but also requires a registration renewal and tag replacement every four years. From past experience owning both documented and state registered boats I personally prefer documentation over registration. Also I would entertain the possibility of a future Cuba crossing if ever legally possible. With that said I think that a vessel must be five net tons or above to qualify for documentation. Hearing of some 24 Foot boats being documented I would think that the CP-23  is close to the tonnage requirement.

[Potcake boy]

I believe the weight of the 23 outboard is 3,000#

[Jon898]

I believe the weight of the 23 outboard is 3,000#

Remember that registered tonnage has nothing to do with weight/displacement.  It's a simplified measure of the cargo capacity of the hull with a calculation that attempts to measure the volume of the hull to the deck level plus the volume of any enclosed deckhouses and divides the cubic feet by 100 to arrive at a "tonnage".  The simplified calculation is given here: https://www.uscg.mil/hq/msc/tonnage/docs/TG-1_Current.pdf . Since the USCG doesn't want to know about anything under 5 tons, a quick screen on the dimensions of the CP23 indicates you may be on the ragged edge.  I suggest you first contact the factory to see if they have ever completed a CG-1261 for a CP23 before you go to the extent of trying to complete a CG-5397.

Many years ago we had a 40-foot steel ketch with a registered tonnage of (IIRC) 13 and 56 sixtyfourths.  She displaced over 27 tonnes as discovered by the dopes at the haul-out yard who read the tonnage carved into her main beam and tried to lift her with a 20 ton travellift, blowing their hydraulic systems.

Jon

[Blown Away]

Thanks Jon your post has been most helpful!

[Blown Away]

Feedback,  I spoke to the guys at Hutchins earlier today and they have no knowledge of ever figuring the net tonnage of the CP23 and seem to think that it's shy but not far from the 5 ton mark. Think I'll calculate it out of curiosity. Thanks for the info guys!