One sad CP-16

[tmw]

WARNING:  GRAPHIC IMAGES, PLEASE ONLY VIEW IF READY TO BE EXPOSED TO EXTREME SADNESS.

I ran into this ad (it's not mine):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Com-Pac-16-sailboat-/291665352698?forcerrptr=true&hash=item43e89c17fa:g:QZoAAOSw1S9WeZZ5&item=291665352698

and can't help thinking it's one sad looking CP-16.  It's mis-filed in the 20-27' sailboats, got backed into resulting in a large break, has the keel cracked to the point where it looks like concrete might be exposed, only 1 sail is usable (not great, just usable) and the decking looks rotten.  All this and pictures tend to make things look better than reality.

Isn't Bob23 looking for a project boat?  Or has this boat gone so far it should be turned into a reef (or what happens to old fiberglass hulls)?

[Bob23]

So sad. Yes, I'm looking for a decent 16 that is homeless.  900 clams is too much and Texas is too far.

[crazycarl]

Ah...yes.

The elusive 1967 Compac 16!

C.C.

[kickingbug1]

  there is nothing sadder than a neglected and forgotten sailboat. that one just about has to come back from the grave.

[JTMeissner]

Seems like the seller knows little about boats (maybe just sailboats), or knows a lot and is trying to find someone else who knows little about sailboats...

First off, younger sister of my ship, appears to be hull #58 from June 1975 (if I read my HIN right; I have #16).  I am actually glad to see some of the pictures of a CP-16 from that era as it tells me that my hunches of mods to my boat are correct.  Sometime in my boat's history, an owner covered the entire inside of the boat with fiberglass mat, maybe to hide some of the rotting wood that this boat shows.  I currently have a bare hull with no interior structure as I chisel out some concrete (I'll be posting the travails at another time).  My bunk boards were also straight, not v-pointed at the compression post, so that was probably cut out due to rotted wood.

Based on some of the interior water stains, I'm guessing this boat filled with water while on the trailer, tipped/tilted back, and then smashed the stern (with rudder mounted) into the ground.  Either that, or at some point it was backed into something solid and the stern was smashed, but the rudder was likely on since there are symmetrical cracks under the stern light by the HIN, just not as bad.  The same water, with a freeze/thaw cycle, is probably what cracked the keel.  In my case I suppose I was lucky, the freezing just raised the concrete but the keel stayed intact (or was patched well enough that I haven't found it).

While the biggest damage appears to be on the deck near the motor mount and original main sheet rigging, that could probably be straightened and reinforced, then reglassed and fixed (small workspace though).  It also appears the main sheet cleat has been moved from the stern to the front of the cockpit and mounted on the board screwed on there for mid-boom sheeting.  So, this was sailed with that large crack?  IMHO, the bigger problem is the crack under the lower rudder gudgeon, as this exposed the core material back there.  The rudder gudgeon sits on a fairly thick pad (material unknown to me right now), so if wood, that would have to come out and be replaced.

If the rest of the hull is intact, and there are no more surprises with the deck, then it's not in the absolute worst shape I've seen of a boat from this era (but pretty dang close).  The tackling of those stern issues, keel, plus all the rigging, would be the cost/time problem.  We have pictures/posts on the forum that describe fixing similar issues with other boats, just not all at once.

For the effort and expense involved, one is probably better off buying the trailer and leaving the boat for something else.  In any case, $900 seems outrageous for what one would face.  This boat could be saved, but it's a deliberate project that would probably require love of the process versus any expectation of recoupment of work.

-Justin

[ddg23]

I think the owner should pay anyone that would haul it away to get it out of his yard.

[Bob23]

That I might be interested in!

[kickingbug1]

having spent a lot of years wrenching on and helping others wrench on old cars at some point "classic" is just junk. the trailer might be worth something---but not much.