Difference in Compac 16 models

[MKBLK]

Our lake is small, but I would like to camp out on the boat with my 7 year old grandson while it is at the dock.

'Nuff said - I would think you definitely would be happier with a 19.

Marty

[NateD]

If it is going to stay in the water and you want to overnight on it, then a 19 might be the better choice. I just took my 3 year old daughter for an overnight on our 16 last weekend. Lots of fun, but space is tight. Of course that logic sends you down a slippery slope. If a 19 is better than a 16, wouldn't a 23 be even better? Or for that matter, a 27? I'm being a little facetious, there is a big step up in weight/trailering difficulty between the 19 and the 23. There is a significant step up between the 16 and 19, but you're moving from very easy for one person to trailer and setup (16) to slightly harder (19) for one person to trailer and setup. While I was preping the 16 to launch this weekend a guy stopped to chat who had a 19. He just retired and he was hoping to get more sailing in. He said he had no problem raising the mast without any kind of help or gin pole/winch setup. So if a 19 fits in the budget and you feel comfortable towing and handling the increased weight compared to the 16, you think you can use the increased cabin space, and you are going to leave the boat in the water, then there isn't much downside going from a 16 to a 19.

[Reg55]

Bob, I happened to note you are in Annandale MN. I have my CP16 III on a lake in your town (Cedar) and would be happy to show it to you and let you sail it. I just got it this summer after deciding my knees and back are no longer good for sailing Lasers so I am not an "old pro" but it is a very friendly, forgiving and safe craft. So far, I would advocate for one with the bow sprit if you can find it because they (apparently) point much better and on our small lakes that comes in handy unless you are simply cruising on a beam reach for fun. I think you can message me directly through this forum. Ralph

[Mike]

Thanks Marty, that is good advise.  I have a tendency to "pull the trigger" and need to wait and find the right boat.  At age 65, this will be my last one. Our lake is small, but I would like to camp out on the boat with my 7 year old grandson while it is at the dock. I am going to look for a CP-19 in my area. There are alot of sailboats in Minnesota and Wisconsin, I am sure I will find one.  Right now, the closest is in Tomahawk, WI, 4 hours away.  I enjoyed reading your sailing log when you bought your boat in 2011. I will try and contact your friends, I have never seen a Compac 19.  Yesterday, I was at White Bear Boat Works and saw a neglected 1979 Compac 16 in the backyard. It was a sad sight and almost made me want to fix it up. I am not sure it was for sale or being repaired.

I have a 1985 19 and can tell you that they are great for sleeping in the cockpit and below.  Probably a bit more rigging time (mast raising system helps) but all around a great sailing boat and good size for two.

[Nezz]

The search will continue. I made contact with Reg55 and he is going to show me his Compac-16 III. He is on a lake similar to mine and only 4 miles away. My wife will be the deciding factor on if it is a 16 or 19.  I love this forum and the contacts I had made, so it is going to be a Compac. Thanks for the kind reach outs.

Nesbitt

[MKBLK]

Hi Bob,

Just came back from the Delaware River ramp in Falls Twp, PA and was thinking about my experiences in the CP16 and your quest. Just another thought or two re CP16 vs CP19. My CP16 (1981) and others of the same vintage, have no liner material in the cabin (I believe later models do). Pretty sure that all CP19's do have it. Would make a big difference in comfort, particularly at night in fending off humidity. I would like to apply such lining to Pegasus. Also, as far as mast raising, if you plan on leaving the boat in the water for the season, the CP19's enhanced rigging is really not a big issue. I'm sure you could recruit someone to help you raise and/or lower it when necessary. You could probably do it yourself, but as you get older...

Good luck on your search,

Marty K.
81 CP16 Pegasus

[Nezz]

I finally got my wife talking on the subject of sailboats. She said that cabin size is not the main issue because on our small lake it will rarely be used. She is not a great fan of towing large objects and the simpler the mast raising and taking down, the better she likes it.  She agrees the boat needs to point well  to navigate our lake. We think the Compac 16-2 is probably the boat for us.  We will go look at Reg55's and she can see if she likes it. Without her support my boat deals are doomed. I still have 7 months till retirement, I have time to find a good one.

Nesbitt