good/bad changes in new cp23/trailer

[shamblin]

sailors,

what are the changes in the factory new cp23 that i should know about or watch out for?

what is negotiable that should/could be avoided?  i will ask for no through hull fittings and minimal/no winches (since i never needed one in my life. )

i am looking at outboard, no furling, jib and 155, screens, and regular old flat aluminum rudder always worked fine for me?  best bolt on boarding ladder. lifelines and stancions.

is there a choice of the best trailer for salt water?

thanks, bill shamblin

[brackish]

boat comes standard with very good bolt on folding boarding ladder, stanchions and single lifeline, screens, and foiled rudder.  Doubt you can even get the flat rudder for the 23 anymore.  It will not come with through hulls (below the waterline) unless you put in a speed log paddle wheel and a depth transducer of the thru hull variety, but those are options.  Good luck handling a 155 without winches, I couldn't do it, particularly single handed.Three winches are standard on the boat.

Fairly sure there is one trailer option.  Performance, whom they used to use, went out of business, don't know who they are using now, but more than likely galvanized steel with surge brakes on one axle and the mast raising system as part of the trailer.  I would look to leave that off and make a ginpole system that could be used on the boat.  My heavy, awkward trailer mounted system has been removed and is now behind my shed.

The main change is stainless hardware and stainless ports.  The ports are very high quality, framed inside and out with screens and outstanding seals.  The bobstay is now a solid rod.

I'm sure if you are ordering one from the factory you can negotiate anything into or out of the deal.

[NateD]

I'm young (29) and in good shape, and there is no way I can trim in my 135 jib without a winch in anything north of 15mph winds. I've strained by back/shoulder trying. I could get by without the cabin top winch for the halyards though. It's nice to put a little extra tension on the luff in high wind, but I rarely use it.

Hutchins usually uses high/good quality parts, typically at a price pretty close to Defender/West Marine. If you're ever going to add winches, furling, cockpit cushions, lights, etc., you might as well order them with the boat and enjoy them from day 1.

[brackish]

a couple of other nice changes include the PVC rubrail with the stainless striker plate which is very tough.  Additionally the area where the instrument panel has been placed is redesigned and I can attest to the fact that it made it very easy to add VHF, Steereo, additional breakers and do wiring for various accessories.  Dowside is that the room under is lowered somewhat, limiting the height of the cooler that will fit in the area.

[shamblin]

thanks very much.

i think i may need some counseling about winches and big staysails/headsails..  all these years i have only used them for light airs, you know, ghosting along easily..  by 10 knots, ive had the genoa down and the jib up  to plod along sedately with an absence of drama.  and i used difficulty managing a 155 or a 135 without winches, as an indicator of when to take it down and put up the jib.   

i guess i still have a lot to learn. 8-)

   

[Billy]

I like to keep the jib sheet in my hand to make adjustments as the wind gust. The winches take a lot of the load off of the sheets, so I can hold it longer.

[HideAway]

I cannot imagine sailing HideAway without winches - they are a necessity even in lower wind speeds   While you may be able to handle the sheets early in your cruise you will tire and that is dangerous.   The only winch we don't use much is  the one on the mast.  And the only task we use it for is removing or installing the outboard.

As far as the trailer goes - Galvanized for sure and aluminum if you can afford it.   Painted steel has no place in salt water.   M