Roller Furling for 19

[vigsail]

Hi all,
I'm sure there's been postings on this topic but I can't seem to find them...so I apologize if this is redundant.  Thinking about putting a roller furling system on the 19 -- it's time for a new jib anyway so I'm trying to get a handle on people's experience with models and reliability.  I've always liked hanked-on, but with two small kids I like the idea of a furler.
Thanks.

[Ralph Erickson]

When I bought my CP 19 used, it came with a CDI Roller furling jib.  I had a hank on when I had my CP 16, and I'll never do without a roller furler again.  Makes it so very easy to single hand sail, which I do most of the time. Mine works great, although occasionally needs adjustments.  My advice - go for it!

Ralph

[Gil Weiss]

I have a CDI roller furler too on my 19! Had one on my 16 too. They work great and are worth the money.

If your jib is in good shape it can be modified by any good sail shop for use with a furler. If not in good shape go new!

Have fun, Gil

[Craig Weis]

I have a '0-0' sized Harken furling unit on Comfort & Joy. Works fine. skip.

[JLaman]

This is an old thread, but it's all I am able to locate.  Hopefully some of you have some experience with newer furlers.  My old furler has about had it and I am looking at the FF1 Flexible CDI.  Has anyone used this furler on the CP19, any problems, and did you order with or without ball bearings?  Thanks for any input!

[Salty19]

There seem to be 3 good choices out there for a 19.

The Harken 00AL, the CDI FF2 and Schaefer 603278.  Also profurl may make one that fits, but haven't looked at them much so no comment there.

The CDI's are the least expensive and appear to be usable, popular and worthy units. A lot of compacs use them and they are what the factory chooses as well.
The Harken and Schaefers appear to use more high end materials and design and at a higher price tag. I bought the harken OOAL on discount late last year, haven't installed it yet (come on spring!). It appears as if it will last the life of the boat, and it's the lightest one available in the small size we need.

Doubt you could go wrong with any of these units.  Depends on if you want medium or high end.  Actually there are others that are even higher grade that will fit--racing styles with carbon fiber foils and the like, but they can get pricey.

[brackish]

Salty19's assessment is spot on, I think.  The main issue with the CDI FF2 is the foil extrusion itself in my book.  it is a composite material and subject to bend and twist if your mast raisings or lowerings become too much of an adventure.  It requires very careful strapping to the mast and support of the drum which sticks out past the end of the mast when doing a trailer run. I think the others mentioned have aluminum extrusions that might resist that a bit more.

My CDI FF2 foil has a 90 degree twist in it from some past adventure and I will probably have to replace it soon at a parts cost of $200.  On the other hand, the other choices in furlers generally cost about 2.5 times what the CDI FF2 costs for  initial purchase price.

[JLaman]

Okay, thanks for the input!  Just to be clear, it's not the FF1 but the FF2 that you recommend for the CP19?  Seems the FF1 would fit based on the dimensions that I have and the CDI website info.  Also, any thoughts on the ball bearing option?  Thanks again.

[skip1930]

No ball bearings needed. The sail is not that large.

skip.

[Salty19]

Jeff,  no the ff1 will not fit. The max pin diameter is 1/4" whereas the cp19 uses a 5/16" pin. FF2 is the right size.  Brack's problems are exactly why I went with the harken. Aluminum foil is stronger. Paid $925 or so plus another $150 for a new headstay.  The harken makes you cut the old or buy new and have parts preinstalled before swaying.

[JLaman]

Thanks a bunch!  I think I'll try the CDI and see how it goes.  I like the simplicity of the design.  The old Seafurl I have has been a real headache and is pretty heavy too.  Last summer I bent, or did something internally, to the aluminum foil and now it's very difficult to make it turn.  A misbehaving furler is a maddening when the wind comes up.  Thanks again.

[skip1930]

Wait one minute. on my CP-19 the head stay stayed 'as is' from the factory. No re-sizing required.

skip.

[JLaman]

Skip -- a little confused now.  You have a Harken and used your factory stay?

[skip1930]

Correct.

[Salty19]

Same size, but there are connectors that slip onto the stay to attach the foils. They do not slip over the swaged fitting. The stay must be cut, connectors fitted then reswaged or a new stay must be built and connectors fitted prior to swaging. I have this project literally in front of me as we speak. Skip, did you build yours from scratch or did the rig exist when you bought the boat?  Download the manual and see for yourself.